| Archive for The Brittany Forum For all friends of the versatile Brittany |
| johnhod |
KC Field Training Days for Pointing BreedsApologies if you've already received this from the KC but I don't know how widely they've distributed it.KC are running training days for KC registered HPRs, pointers and setters in 2009. 2 days (29 Feb & 1 Mar) on North Yorkshire Moors (grouse) 2 days (14 & 15 March) on North Yorkshire Moors (grouse) 1 day (19 April) in Suffolk (partridge and pheasant) 1 day (26 April) in Suffolk (partridge and pheasant) £60 for 2 day courses £30 for the 1 day ones Beginners and novice handlers particularly welcome. You can also enter your dog for WGC for an extra £10 I did the North Yorkshire one with Moss last year and thoroughly enjoyed it. I've got more info or I assume it will be on the KC site (just search on Field Training) |
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| guy |
has the confusion been sorted about 'for pointing breeds' do they do an add on for the retrieve bit? | ||||
| Mugi |
Off to check this out, John in your opinion what level of basic knowledge and obedience is required?? | ||||
| johnhod |
Guy. Only the hunting and pointing elements will be carried out at the training days. Looking at the accompanying leaflet the retrieve assessment can be conducted at a later WGC day, a GWT or on a shoot.
Sue. Quoting, this time, from one of the info sheets: It is anticipated that participants will be separated into 4 groups Beginners - those with little or no knowledge of their breed's working ability Novice - owners who have basic knowledge of their breed's working requirements and for dogs that have basic obedience skills Experienced - owners who know the working requirements of their breed and who have their training well under-way Advanced - Owners who have some experience in the field and may be given an opportunity to take part in a mock field trial. I don't know how the one day courses will run but the one I went on I put Moss down as a novice but all the HPRs ended up together, the split only came into place for the pointers and setters. Moss had only had about 4 days beating before we went, reasonable recall and would sit to the whistle (sometimes). The instructors are all field trial panel judges and the help they provided in using the wind and trusting your dog was invaluable to me. Hope that's of some help |
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| eddieh |
John
I can only find the entry form. Where did you get the info regarding location? |
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| Mugi |
If this has worked then hopefully all the info is accessible through the menu.
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/2110 Meant to add - check out the joining instructions part  .
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| johnhod |
Yes that seems to be what I got, but mine came in a glossy folder, through the post. Maybe i've got friends in high places 
Didn't notice via the link but have they got the dates wrong on the web site too?? Course 4 should read Sunday 26th March |
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| guy |
I think you only have to register an interest and you get one - mine arrived today - quite swanky isn't it.
email hilary gould at the kc and i am sure anyone can obtain the pack. |
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| johnhod |
I assume I got mine because I went last year and they think they can get more money out of me (maybe they will) | ||||
| eddieh |
Thank you Sue
I'm sorely tempted to book the grouse moor training but wonder if Six Mile Bottom might be more realistic. Did you do one or two days John? |
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| eddieh |
Sorry John, just read your post again  .
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| johnhod |
I did the two days. Day one was training all day, day two was Working Gundog Certificate first, then back to more training if you wanted it. IfI go again this year it will be North Yorkshire again. The ground was hard work to get over but I though it was worth it for the nuber of birds we got to see. Moss gor a couple of points every run, without there being that many that you were falling over them.
Considering I usually work him in woodland it was great to see him ranging out on the wide open spaces of the moors |
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| doganjo |
I see Scotland is invisible again.   Must mention that to Hilary.
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| Ghilliegumdrop |
I wondered why I got this big envelope from the KC...then I realized it's because I am on the HPR forum as a co ordinator 
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| doganjo |
co-ordinator of what? | ||||
| Ghilliegumdrop |
FT training day lists etc....with Lisa | ||||
| doganjo |
Since when - I gave her the list months ago when I got it from John A and she forgot to put it up | ||||
| eddieh |
Am I to read anything into the fact that there are two weekends of training in Yorkshire but only two single days in Suffolk? | ||||
| eddieh |
What I meant was, is there something about the terrain or the quarry which requires more prolonged training, or is it just an availability thing? | ||||
| johnhod |
Eddie
Laptop's playing up again (looks like I'm going to have to part with some hard earned cash) so I've only just read your message. I'll have a look on the papers when I get home but I think they tie the southern events to a visit to a field trial. Could be that the northern ones take longer to give everyone a go as the heather is really hard going. |
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| eddieh |
I’m thinking of booking one of the weekends for Remi and initially thought I’d like to do one of the Yorkshire weekends. On reflection Newmarket is a lot nearer and I wondered if, given where I live, training him on a grouse moor would be a little like giving sea angling lessons to a young boy who lives near a canal in Birmingham. Does that make sense? | ||||
| johnhod |
Your choice obviously but another question you may want to ask yourself is how many times will I get a chance to work Remi on a species like this and on ground like this. But then again you may want to aks why should I freeze my bits of on a windswept moor complete with horizontal rain (or snow, hail, etc) for two days when I could go out for one day and be home again that night.
It may be the masochist in me but watching various HPRs, pointers and setters working as they were meant to work is a joy I'm glad I didn't miss |
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| eddieh |
That was what I meant by using the sea fishing analogy.
I’m sad to say that I’ve only ever seen one pointer and setter meet of some description, which was a bit of a flop. There was nothing but stubble in the field and ,as far as I remember, no birds were found while I was there. There was a grass verge which was separated from the field by a hedge. As I left I saw 10 or 15 pheasant on this verge, some of which appeared to be looking through the hedge as if to see if the dogs were still there . I also remember being surprised by the difference between the dogs there and those I’d seen kept as pets or shown. Especially the predominantly white setter with black and tan face markings 
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| johnhod |
I was trying (badly) to say that while pheasant and partridge is usually reasonably easy to access the chance to work on grouse is more difficult to access and you may want to take the opportunity to do so, that was why I did it anyway |
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| eddieh |
Ah. Sorry John. I misunderstood | ||||