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doganjo

KC News

 Bobtails to be registered

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"THE KENNEL Club has acceded to requests from the Brittany Club of Great Britain and the Swedish Vallhund Society to record on registration certificates puppies born with naturally bobbed tails.
This positive move was made in order to help breeders identify which dogs or lines carry the tailless gene.
The status of the tail length is to be recorded behind the name of the breed, for example Swedish Vallhund (bobtail).
The word bobtail is the only description of the tail which will be accepted, the KC says.
The description of any other tail length or tails which are not naturally bobbed, such as ‘full tail’ or ‘legally docked’ will not be recorded. If breeders want bobtail to be recorded on the registration certificate, confirmation of the tail status of puppies must be accompanied by veterinary certification on the practice’s headed paper and sent with the litter registration form."


I have asked them if bobtails may be retrospectively registered (with corroboration, obviously), so that we can have an even better idea of bobtail lines.

Edited 12 Dec - received telephone call from KC and discussed retrospective registration of bobtails - I will be in discussion with the  Breeder Services representative at the KC early next week.
doganjo

Breed Health Plans Issued

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/i...tl_art_news/pg_hdr_art/pg_ftr_art
doganjo

BBC drops Crufts

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7779686.stm
eddieh

That's a shame.
I was thinking of phoning in during the broadcast to ask why their panel of presenters never disagree with the judges, unlike football, tennis, rugby or any other pastime or sport which has referees, umpires or judges.
Twisted Evil
johnhod

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=2187

KCs version of the BBC link that Annie posted
doganjo

Inbreeding and close breeding - ergistration to be refused.

Full story here - click this link - http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=2234

The Kennel Club has announced that it will crack down on the small number of breeders who continue to use the practice of mating close relatives by refusing to register those puppies that are born from any mother/son, father/daughter or brother/sister mating, taking place on or after 1st March 2009. Departures from this principle will only be made in exceptional circumstances or for scientifically proven welfare reasons. Kennel Club research into the genetic diversity of all breeds in the UK is ongoing and further changes will be considered in the future, on a breed specific basis.

Additionally, all dog owners and breeders will be required to permanently identify their dogs, via microchip or tattoo, from January 2010, in order to participate in the Kennel Club/British Veterinary Association health schemes for eye disease and hip and elbow dysplasia. These schemes have been in place for many years and give dog owners in relevant breeds the opportunity to test for a number of common disorders; this move is introduced, at the express request of the veterinary profession, to ensure the fairness and accuracy of the results of the schemes.
Ghilliegumdrop

If you have a naturally bobtail dog/bitch and your vet will sign a letter stating that it is a natural tail then the KC will add the information to your dogs details. ie; if my vet looks at Merlin and can say that he was not docked then they will add bob tail to his registration for me....when asked the question ' if my vet cannot tell the difference how will anyone be able to tell if any dog was or wasn't docked Question ' no-one at the KC was able to answer me Exclamation This whole situation is still as clear as mud Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes Bearing in mind that Merlin was born before the docking ban and he was born with a bob tail so carries the gene for taillessness Exclamation
doganjo

The only proof is when they sire a litter, and even then it may not be conclusive.  Allez is a bob too but my vets haven't been able to tell the difference either between his and Belle's (also a bob) and Freckles who was docked.
Allez and belle's litter followed the recognized stats for a bob to bob mating - 2 thirds bob, 1 third long.

If I were to mate Allez to Freckles, which I won't as I feel it is too close, then the stats would predict a 50/50 bob to long split.

Nightmare!
johnhod

So the stats predict an even number of pups to a long/bob cross.  Aren't statistics wonderful Twisted Evil  Wink
doganjo

Nope, sorry, my mistake - it should be 75% long 25% short
johnhod

That would still require an even number of pups in the litter, wouldn't it?

The minimum number in the litter would have to be 4 and after that any number divisible by 4.  I love percentages you can make them prove or disprove so many things
Victoria

Why is the terminology 'mean average' used...why is it unkind? Question  Question  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes
doganjo

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if you have a naturally bobtail dog/bitch and your vet will sign a letter stating that it is a natural tail then the KC will add the information to your dogs details.


I hadn't heard this.  I was under the impression that the registration of bobtail was only for litters born after the directive, and certified by a vet within the statutory 24 hours of birth as the tail not having been surgically removed.  I have asked for clarification on this.  Will let you know when I hear from them.
doganjo

Further news - only the word 'bobtail' is allowed to be used, and the vet has to actually state that the dog is a natural bobtail in his letter.  This means that puppies in the same litter with the same gene but different length tails  cannot have the asme tag on their papers.

The following breeds will also be allowed to have the 'bobtail' tag attached to their registrations.  Just goes to show - introducing the bobtail to the Boxer has been an interesting experiment.

Australian Shepherd
Boxer  
Old English Sheepdog
Polish Lowland Sheepdog
Schipperke
Welsh Corgi (Pembroke)
Ghilliegumdrop

If the tails are differing lengths but are obviously shorter than normal then they can have the word 'bobtail' on their registration. What they cannot have is a description of the length of tail.
doganjo

[quote="Ghilliegumdrop"]If the tails are differing lengths but are obviously shorter than normal then they can have the word 'bobtail' on their registration. What they cannot have is a description of the length of tail.

No, that is not what James said - he  said this
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Only dogs born with bobtails will be recorded as bobtailed, no other length of tail will be recorded by the Kennel Club, whether or not they carry bobtail genes.
Ghilliegumdrop

When is a bobtail a bobtail and, more to the point, what length makes it a bobtail Question  Question
Lin Dyke

Hhhmmm, very interesting question Jan  Confused
doganjo

I can give you James' email address if you want to ask him
doganjo

Some more from the KC announced on the Our Dogs Forum
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Hi there!

As some of you may have already spotted from the Kennel Club website, we have set up an online petition calling on the government to apply the same basic principles which govern the Accredited Breeder Scheme to the breeding of ALL dogs.

We are actively promoting this petition via full page adverts in the dog press and I am pleased to report that they seem to be fully behind us in promoting the message to responsible breeders everywhere. The time has come for responsible dog breeders and lovers to stand together in unison against the negative, misleading and often downright inaccurate views put out by the likes of the RSPCA.

Please sign up and show your support today – and pass the link to your friends and family.

The petition can be found via www.fitforfunction.org.uk

Thanks

Caroline
johnhod

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calling on the government to apply the same basic principles which govern the Accredited Breeder Scheme to the breeding of ALL dogs.


Does that mean charging them then accrediting them without and checks or monitoring?

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