Mugi
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Main siteI have been checking through the links etc on the main site, sadly many are out of date with info for 2007 coming up. IMVHO it is better to have no page than out of date pages as that just looks as though the site is not updated well.
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Patricia
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I was checking too on the news and events...I am aware that Anne is moving at the moment but will look forward to updates too.
Seminars etc??
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Victoria
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I wonder if it would be a good idea for Committee to review the portfolio of webmaster. If Annie is the treasurer also the forum admin etc etc etc etc it seems unfair that she has such a work load. (Please Annie, I mean that in the most sincerest manner. I know what clubs are like there is a core of people who do so much).I wonder just how many memberships etc are generated from the website; could a poll be integrated into the website for say a month to ascertain use/outcome.
How much does the website cost per annum? You have to ask what is the purpose of the website (is it promoting the club or the breed or both?). Does its cost justify the end? The bit about forums...why the HPR - there would be people new to the interest who would not have a clue what HPR means!!!
The home page with the disclaimer is a bit non user friendly...it could be put somewhere else...say I have never seen the site before I want photos of the breed on the homepage first and foremost so I can see what the dog actually looks like!! If I could see a series of photographs of the breed in its different roles, I am sure going to want to know more.
You have to assume that whoever finds the site has a) has heard of the breed and wants to make 'contact' with the/a club; b) is wanting a dog and stumbles on the site (as I did!!); c) has a vague idea of the breed and wants more information.
Some might get a bit fidgety about just who's dog/s would go on the homeage...easy...run a competition with dog food vouchers (or something like that) as prizes (nothing excessive and it would help generate ownership of the site) The dogs nor breeders/owners do not have be named etc.
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Patricia
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Indeed Anne works hard for the club
As Anne says and we all understand, the changes to be made have to go to committee. But members can make suggestions which in turn have to go through the right chanels...
Well..1) in the UK everyone knows HPR stands for Hunt Point Retrieve.
The remaining groups being Spaniels, Retrievers,Pointers and Setters. The HPR are Continental. Like the country of origin we do NOT run Continental and British breeds in trials and tests against each other ...due to the significant differences in work pattern.
2) We definitely could not put some photos of specific dogs in the UK as being a small club, everyone knows everybody and their dogs too. If one is included then about someone else's?? So it may be better to utilise a French dog, maybe a top champion.
3) Guy has mentionned looking at the Google search to get the BCGB site to come up quickly.
4) The disclaimer: you need one as the opinions and texts of some may not be in agreement with the committee and club policies.
5) This web page is fairly old and needs revamp but as Anne says again it will be discussed.
On my behalf,a page on the character needs to be very prominent: it is crucial to emphasise the needs for the breed and its sheer speed.
We have members doing agility and competing. maybe photos? Main page: along with Ska, Indy de St Lubin, the most titled Brittany in France.
Everyone will have some ideas I am sure.
Texts: can be modernised now...
That 's my bit for now!
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Victoria
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I doubt very much that everyone in the UK even those curious or desirous of being owned by a Breton, knows what HPR means!! Yes, many of you would know whose dog it was, but the website is not about that it is about reaching people, members and others.
Why use photos of French dogs when you can use GB dogs??!! Or use current show or trial winners. But this is mere housekeeping. Guy asked for suggestions, I put forward my quids worth.
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johnhod
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I must have my fundraising head on at the moment. Maybe we could get people to make a contribution to have their dog displayed on the home page for a set period. I like the idea of pictures showing Brittanys doing other activities other as well as working or showing.
To get round having a disclaimer on the home page we could have a link on there to an other page that contains links to other useful sites, the disclaimer could then be on this page instead.
I too appreciate the work that you put into the club as a whole, Annie you certainly take on a lot more than many of us would so I hope you take these suggestions in the spirit that they are meant.
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Annie as admin
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I have suggested before that someone else might take on the website - no-one has offerd in the past.
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guy
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happy to help.
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Annie as admin
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| Quote: | | Why use photos of French dogs when you can use GB dogs |
Because there are only about 100 Brittanys being shown in the UK and only a handful being trialled. So if ONE UK dog was on the website others would complain, unless it had done something special like Amber(Dual Ch Tournesol Toutou at Bryantscroft)
What does 'happy to help' mean, Guy. Are you able (have the time) to revamp and keep running on a daily basis? Or are you offering to help me revamp and run it? Help very gratefully accepted but I think Patricia has a number of very valid points, especially the disclaimer - it will only put off those it is meant to put off.
As to the cost of the website, the answer to that is - nothing. we do not have a budget for it. It is hosted by a Club and Forum Member as he has an IT company. My time is given freely. I pay the domain name cost of £6 every two years and claim it back. My son set up the website and I maintain it, but I can only do so with suggestions and information from others - I do not make the news - you people do!
Now I must shut down my computer and pack it up, I do not yet have broadband at my new house so I may disappear for a couple of weeks. i'll catch up with you all then. Bye for now
Annie
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guy
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I would have thought 'help you' revamp and maintain is the best option. Best of luck with the move.
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Victoria
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| admin wrote: | | Quote: | | Why use photos of French dogs when you can use GB dogs |
Because there are only about 100 Brittanys being shown in the UK and only a handful being trialled. So if ONE UK dog was on the website others would complain, unless it had done something special like Amber(Dual Ch Tournesol Toutou at Bryantscroft
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I not meaning just one dog!!!! I mean a mini gallery of say four or so; they don't have to be show dogs...Breton doing anything!! Alitter of puppies, anything!! And as I say, if anyone gets twitchy about it they know what to do...simply submit something, ezzee pezzy!! Photos that are going to make the browser stop browsing and say to the person in the room with them 'hey come and have a look at these beautiful dogs. This is what we want! how do we get one!"
When I realised I not only wanted a Brit but needed one, the first contact on the web was the Northern Carolina website!! after much more webbing I came to know that the breed is split then I found the BCGB site, about the time my eyes were falling out and I realised that I had 2 hours to sleep and milk the goats before work!!!! And it was only when I got to the hall of fame did I realise I had found the place I wanted!!
A disclaimer shouldnt put anyone off...it is normal practise...I am saying that it is simply in the wrong place...arrrrrrrghhhhh...you want people to go into your website thats the whole purpose of them...
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Ghilliegumdrop
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Blame me for the disclaimer Victoria, as t'was me what said it should be put there. If it was on here no-one would bother to read it....unless, of course, it was part of the registration bumff and even then people don't read things before they register. Mind you, most people don't read it where it is either
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Patricia
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Again I go along with Anne...She is right.
The whole web site issue is for the committee to decide and BCGB members to have an input about what they would like to see. I might want specific things but It does not mean I will get it!!!
As for if you don't like it... though...This is Great Britain here, we are a democratic country and people are polite, that is why I like the British so much
I am sure John will come up with his fund raising ideas and we will look forward to wat he comes up with. In the mean time, maybe some more Brittany members will say what they think???
Disclaimer is definitevely right. Some of the points sometimes raised and training ideas makes your hair stand up on end!
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Victoria
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Excuse me, but I am a member!! And very proud to be so. I want nothing more for the Club but success and the promotion (without greed or pomp) of our so gorgeous breed. Of course this all is mere conjecture without the tenure of the Committee. Of course England is a democracy .
I do not know why one cannot submit suggestions, ideas, etc etc etc etc without an antagonistic debate ensuing.
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Patricia
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And as I say, if anyone gets twitchy about it they know what to do...simply submit something, ezzee pezzy!!
This is what I don't go along with, sorry...
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Peter G
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Just been having a thought as to which dogs we could use in the gallery
How about the best dog & bitch from each of the champ shows and maybe our 2 open shows as well, that would proberbly give about 12 dogs all shown as thumb nails which could expand to full pictures and behind the name could be colour, tail length and a 3 or 5 generation pedigree, a simular results based selection could be sorted for the best working dogs
Just a thought
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guy
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Some useful ideas coming in here - please keep thinking and writing.
my personal take on a few of them -
Disclaimer: this is double edged - yes off putting, but also a useful reminder to persons using the site about when and where to find professional assistance. I do however feel it is a bit over used - my logic says to me - if you don't believe in something don't include it in the page, not put it there and say I'm not to be held responsible for the information.
A stronger reminder that content on the Club Forum is not always the viewof teh club itself and that it is moderated and that threads may be edited or removed is totally in order. But long may the chance to discuss topics openly be retained; iI believe over moderation will only drive writeres to other forums.
the use of HPR - whilst this is a widely known abbreviation in the UK it is not - to my surprise universally known here. Neither is it recognised worldwide, I accept that. However the Club site is just that a Club site and the club is UK based so I believe the common UK term should be used. The link to the HPR forum - is perhaps questionable, but that forum does have a very vibrant list of correspondents with a number having Brittany experience in some depth. It is however not in any way linked to the BCGB and therefore cannot be moderated in any way by the BCGB.
Pictures.
In some way I think all suggestions are right.
French dogs - there should be space for pictures of the very best French dogs, both current and historic. We are a French breed and there is much to be learned from looking at French dogs.
UK champions - this would be ideal - good pictures of good dogs. Again how is any new owner to learn what is 'good' if they cannot at least start by 'seeing' what is good.
Dogs doing activites and general members pictures. I may be sad but i love the photo galleries on the French forum and elsewhere - they cannot be published if they are not sent in !
Technically it would not be that hard to have a random picture on the front page along with a small bit of text about the illustrated dog. I was chuffed to bits to see one of mine on the French site, even if it was only there a few days.
Some of the things I would like to see - not in any particular order and on top of all the other suggestions so far made.
'Around the Brittany World' pages written by members outside the UK we have quite a few after all What it is like to have a Brittany, what are the opportunities to work,show, train, breed etc etc.
A 'frequently asked questions' page/pages - collated from forum posts and elsewhere.
access to all the old club newsletters, they are full of fascinating and valuable information. perhaps as pdfs?
A chance to sign up for an electronic newsletter - it would allow the club to deliver articles with colour pictures and up to date information at no cost. Information is being 'sent to them' rather than having to 'look for it'
Some biographic information about Stan Smith and the early days.
More 'historic' stuff generally translations of early standards, who did what in 80's and 90's perhaps even a 'where are they now' page.
an online entry form to club shows even if that was just the 'open shows' - just think of the time it would save the club sec'y
pen pictures of the club officials and committee members.
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Patricia
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Well Guy, aren't you going to be a busy boy!
I agree with all of this. Lots of work in store. I liked the idea of John's rotation of a page picture for fund raising.
I have a bee in my bonnet about the Brittany being given careful consideration before owning one. Yes, if you love them, you'll never have anything else..but...Having been involved in rescue, I would give priority to character of the breed. The Brittanys, the breed for you???? Pros, against, etc...
Pictures: yes: we have certainly one or more competing in agility. Gold citizen winnners? Obedience, I remember Patricia Scragg( before your days!!) doing it, but who does now???
Trials: we have a handful competing. And some very successfully.
Shows: quality dogs I think. I mentionned Indy because he is an "Elite"stud and having seen him in the flesh, a beautiful dog, though dead now.
And last but not least, listings of approved litters who abide by the BCGB ethics. If we take their money for the register then...
I look forward to seeing this taking shape
Stan, a lovely gentleman would be proud ...
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Ghilliegumdrop
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Doesn't Pat Hibbs work Breton in obedience, heelwork to music and other stuff, Gay and several others have done the KC Citizens badges. Liz does agility and so on and so forth........
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sallie
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Hi Victoria - Uk a democracy Nah, 3 years studying the criminal justice system and law tells me otherwise
You have to remember when adjusting the BCGB website that not everyone has a top class dog as they are very few and far between and the new format is beinging to sound very elitist, with no room for our lovable eb mutts and us folk with no real eb experience.
The question you should be asking is do you want a BCGB site that is for everyone or do you want it to be an exclusive association for the 'top' dogs and breeders.
At the moment this site is very friendly (thanks to Anne) and i for one would like it to stay that way - but....
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eddieh
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| sallie wrote: | Hi Victoria - Uk a democracy Nah, 3 years studying the criminal justice system and law tells me otherwise  | I don't think you have to study anything to come to that conclusion:angryfire:
| sallie wrote: | You have to remember when adjusting the BCGB website that not everyone has a top class dog as they are very few and far between and the new format is beinging to sound very elitist, with no room for our lovable eb mutts and us folk with no real eb experience.
The question you should be asking is do you want a BCGB site that is for everyone or do you want it to be an exclusive association for the 'top' dogs and breeders.
At the moment this site is very friendly (thanks to Anne) and i for one would like it to stay that way - but....  |
I'm not sure I've the right to comment here as my membership application is still being processed, but.....
I'm sure the forum would keep it's friendly, welcoming and forgiving flavour thanks in large part to Anne but also the other regular contributors including yourself. I took much of Guy's suggestions, and those of others, to relate to the website itself as well as the forum. One of his suggestions was the inclusion of general members pictures in addition to those of dogs which have excelled in competition.
With regard to the pro's and con's of the breed. A friend of of mine recently used the following to come to the conclusion that a Husky wasn't for him after all
http://www.siberianhuskyclub.com/abouthuskies/advantages
http://www.siberianhuskyclub.com/abouthuskies/disadvantages
They are very clear and you do not have to read between the lines.
As for the idea of an electonic news letter. This has been adopted by my local bird club recently and, although it took some time to convince some members that it was an option rather than compulsory, it works well. I have a habit of losing paper ones and find electronic ones easier to store and read. If opted for in place of hard copies, it means less postage and less paper for some poor soul to stuff in envelopes. In my particular case it would also mean my neighbours receiving less of my post in error
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Ghilliegumdrop
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I see the Brittany has a rival in the re-arranging the furniture stakes
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Patricia
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Eddie, excellent post
The Husky pages is just what I am on about. It is perfect...We could have a similar set up for the Brittany!
Britain, not a democracy? Try reading the French Forum and everything forbidden in Switzerland. I was surprised by the amount of regulations they have for breeding. I won't go into this here...Not even allowed to bed their dogs on straw if they wish.
The grass is not greener elsewhere, the British are quite a a laid back race( I am not English!) and often " compromise".
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guy
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| Patricia wrote: | | .Not even allowed to bed their dogs on straw if they wish. |
I thought you got 'laid into' quite heavily but then i thought perhaps it was meant to be tongue in cheek - if only my French was better!
I put a link to Tuffies bedding on the thread (http://www.tuffies.co.uk/). we bought one at Crufts after a thread on the HPR forum recommended them. Looks as good as the day it was bought. Not one effort at chewing it into bits (unlike the vetbed which is reduced to bite sized morsels very rapidly). I think it is the best £50 we have spent on bedding. Whilst on the stand someone came back for another - the first was nine or ten years old and they were fed up with the colour.
Eddieh. Thanks for th e post - exactly what is needed to put to committee - ideas with feed back on success or otherwise of those ideas.
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eddieh
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| Ghilliegumdrop wrote: | I see the Brittany has a rival in the re-arranging the furniture stakes  |
I take it you're referring to
http://www.siberianhuskyclub.com/huskydamage
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Ghilliegumdrop
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Patricia
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Guy, I have answered you on the French Forum...In French
Tuffies? Well, my elderly bitch needed something cosy, so at great expense we bought her a Tuffie, lovely green cover etc...Thought it would last forever and need minimum care...How wrong was I !
5 days later, her great grand daughter who shared her kennel with her had chewed up the corner and gutted the entire bed in no time
There was stuffing everywhere, she was having a fab time with it and I had to chuck it
Needless to say Jessie ( who had bought it) was non too plussed...So back on straw as she takes all vet beds out, rips and throws them up in the air. As she is Chases's sister, half given a chance she would take the settee in the garden too, too much character and brain for her own good
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Mugi
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In defense of Chase's sister he would like to point out that their breeding is impeccable and he has no need to shred furniture as he lives with Freddy . When Chase and Brice were taking the sofa outside they had done no damage at all .
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The throws and loose covers were also in bits and I had piled them ready for tipping, that all took less than 1/2 an hour while Brice was at the vet and Mugi had been in the crate so I know the perp , don't I Freddy???? His human furniture tally is 6 sofas and 2 armchairs to date but since Chase arrived he has stopped.
The lovely Kudos Sack that used to be Brices at vast expense went the same way and I have lost count of the dog beds he has destroyed, trouble is Brice needs one for his comfort - Freddy doesn't.
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Patricia
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Oh my God..... I have never seen anything like it!!!
What was your reaction??? I really loved the settee idea in the sunshine
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Mugi
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I am very good, I have learned to nearly not let on how annoyed I am and my house is now furnished by ebay - I would love a nice suite but while Freddy lives here there is no point. Punish him and he becomes anxious and the destruction cycle escalates.
When I say the dog is disturbed I really mean it, he self-mutilates, he shreds stuff in anxiety, he is an escapologist supremo and he one of his biggest early phobias was weeing. I didn't see him wee for 6 months after I got him, he hid himself so he couldn't be found. That broke through on his first camping trip in Wales during lambing so he was on lead 24/7. After nearly 48 hrs he had to go and he pee'd up my leg - I was so pleased he had wee'd I praised him . He has been seen by a fair number of behaviourists and all feel that as he has come so far from what he was that I will just have to live with some of his baggage but if he ever needs to be rehomed he will actually be PTS as being without me (or Brice as his secondary comforter) freaks him so much.
He is the most lovely dog though, he is gentle and loving and real fun but the damage the first 13 months of his life did will be with him till the day he dies, both physical problems from the harsh treatment and more importantly in many ways the emotional traumas.
He has taught me so much, through necessity but if I had known what I was taking on when I got him - I wouldn't have got him!!!!!
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Ghilliegumdrop
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You sure he isn't a Husky
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dibnahs-dad
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Okay I have been watching this now for a while and heres my tuppence of comments for what its worth on the website. As some of you may not be aware I run a Computer programming company and we do, do websites and web applications.
But I am speaking here as a member of the club.
1. the current site is over 10 years old, if you follow the date on the site.
2. the site is by large out of date
3. its difficult to use as the menus/list of pages are all over the place, there should be a uniform menu which gives access to all pages with a minumum of 2 clicks.
4. the design is outdated, I personally find it hard to read as well.
5. on the subject of photos, this is easily solved - a letter in the club magazine to say - new website, send us your photos.
Those who dont, they cant complain (though I am sure they will!)
6. It does not represent who we are, we are a group of enthusiastic people who are passionate about our dogs. The site does not portray the club, our events and who we are. The dog animation on the site doesnt even look like a britt!??!
7. Even if all the above are fixed and the site is brought upto date then the thing which makes a website and keeps people coming back is "Content" ie: the information on there needs to be kept up to date and added to. The old content is then archived for reference.
8. the site should have a disclaimer regardless to protect the site and club just in case..... However nobody will read it. (some of my sites get over 250,000 page views a month and the disclaimer pages get less than 0.01% of these views)
So those are my points.
On the subject of helping update the site. I did offer to do this a number of years ago, and my comments where brushed aside at the AGM. If I recall correctly I was told quite abruptley "Not everyone has a computer".
I am still willing to help to make a new site (design and some code), but owing to my current workload I cannot take over the role on a full time basis. I can however provide tools to make it easier for someone else to update and maintain the site?
In todays, technological society the website is our shop window on the world, whether we're selling something or not is immaterial. The website is what most members or potential members will see as there first contact with the club.
With regards to the club, why can the club magazine not be put into PDF format and put into a secure area of the website for members to download (passworded area). Why not even a list of members who wish to receive the magazine in electronic format only. This keeps costs down to the club (printing and postage) and also helps save the planet a little!
Also this can be a source of additional revenue for the club, if done correctly. Adverts can be placed strategically on the site and can bring money in if visitors use them.
anyway, just a few of my thoughts.
mike
ps: my experience, just a few of my sites
http://www.christopherjacksonltd.com
http://www.scoobysmacs.co.uk
http://www.coliseum.org.uk
http://www.milkshakedesign.com
http://www.asiatriennialmanchester.com
http://www.custodiasafe.co.uk
http://www.djracecars.com
http://www.john-s-brown.com
http://www.leisuregroup.co.uk
http://www.optl.co.uk
http://www.medinahome.co.uk
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johnhod
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| Quote: | | On the subject of helping update the site. I did offer to do this a number of years ago, and my comments where brushed aside at the AGM. If I recall correctly I was told quite abruptley "Not everyone has a computer". |
Unfortunately, I have to say that this doesn't surprise me. I'm sure there are some who would prefer the newsletter to be handwritten with a quill.
I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to have a number of site editors who could provide input to a site manager who would then approve/reject them and post them to the live site. With only one person doing all the work and not always getting updated information it's not really surprisinng that sites stagnate
You are the kind person who hosts the site for us aren't you, Mike?
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Patricia
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[quote="johnhod"][quote]On the subject of helping update the site.
Can I suggest you put it in writing for the committee to look at?
As it looks as if the web site will be up for discussion.
It has to be done via the secretary.
Also: It is true though that not everyone is computerised, I certainly know of a few, one or two being an experienced dog men.
Maybe there should be a choice as to method of receiving the newsletter?John quill will be good!!!
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Annie as admin
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The website is normally just 'brushed aside' and is normally included with my report on the accounts and the shop - I am responsible for all three!!!
So I agree with Patricia, someone needs to put it in writing to Paul that it is discussed as a separate issue. And soon , as the agenda will come out in a day or so - so a phone call to him first may be necessary. I am not yet on broadband so only brifley on here to catch up. I will be dleighted if someone else takes this over. I am an Accountant not an IT consultant and maintain the site as best I can - but apart from the Field trial and tests from John, and rescue details from Margaret I get nothing else, my son set this up 10 years ago and we were one of the first small clubs to have a website. I hope this is appreciated.
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Patricia
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Anne...10 years ago was a long time ago in time of technology and things move so fast. So I think that the web site was really forward thinking then and well maintained. I know you will always do your best.
I never had problems working with you and the finances of rescue. Definitely it looks as if we have takers who can take responsability for the web now!!
The club is a lot of work. Just read the papers to see how few want to stand for committee places and are willing to work...not just sit there without a role to fulfill!
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dibnahs-dad
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annie,
As the website is hosted by me, I would be willing to take over the update and designation of editors to help with the updates and give them access to the system via a wysiwyg editor, however I am not prepared to have anything to do with any committee, i have my reasons for this.
Once a motion has been approved then I will help, I have no problem with helping the club. I will even help put forward a proposal in technical terms.
mike
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dibnahs-dad
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You are the kind person who hosts the site for us aren't you, Mike? |
yes, yes I am
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Ghilliegumdrop
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Send it to Paul for inclusion on the agenda Mike I'm sure that several of us can then bring it up 'again'.
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dibnahs-dad
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I'll write something a bit more indepth and email it around.
Dont want to get involved in anything to do with any comittee to be honest though, and would prefer not to have to sit through another AGM.
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Patricia
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Mike, no one has to have anything to do with the committee if they don't want to!!!
But they are there for the members and if no one says anything about a particular subject close to their heart then....Things get brought up but via the right channels ie our brilliant secretary!! They work hard for the club.
As for the AGM: That is the time to make your views heard , a bit like you are all doing here. But officially...On the agenda ;and discussions take place.
OK, it is not to everyone 's liking but I feel it necessary if we want a point brought up which may benefit the breed. Because that is why we are members? Yes, or maybe not???
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guy
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| dibnahs-dad wrote: | | I would be willing to take over the update and designation of editors to help with the updates and give them access to the system via a wysiwyg editor |
Are you suggesting Mambo ?
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dibnahs-dad
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| guy wrote: | | dibnahs-dad wrote: | | I would be willing to take over the update and designation of editors to help with the updates and give them access to the system via a wysiwyg editor |
Are you suggesting Mambo ? |
Something along those lines, otyher content management systems are available and I will be using one of the simpler ones. TBH I dont think the editor is all that easy to use and have seen better.
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guy
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I have to agree the learning curve on mambo seems high - i have only played with it a bit, I had thought about using it for my main business site but couldn't get it to produce search engine friendly urls. As the site generates some quite good leads I did not want to loose all that 'spider history' if there is such a term :-)
I have on my laptop (I use WAMP - to integrate my Apache, PHP and MySQL) and found the various concepts rather confusing. I did like the idea of giving different levels of editorial access to different people.
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johnhod
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http://www.cmsreview.com/OpenSource/directory.html
Quite a list here to choose from, if you're looking for something different to use
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dibnahs-dad
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guy
any site we do will use Access rather than mysql otherwise there are costs involved.
I also dont like PHP as its hacker friendly! and a few sites I have inherited from other companies which use php have been hacked.
as for ther search engine history, dont worry about this as its a speciality of mine and I know many tricks to keep old links and get the search engines to optimize new ones.
mike
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Ghilliegumdrop
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Do you lot have to be sooooo technical How about you start your own thread and call it Technicalities
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sallie
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What about including a chat room
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guy
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| sallie wrote: | What about including a chat room  |
isn't this one?
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guy
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| Ghilliegumdrop wrote: | Do you lot have to be sooooo technical How about you start your own thread and call it Technicalities  |
why should we do that? the conversation is relevant to the web site and this is the web site thread.
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guy
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| dibnahs-dad wrote: | guy
any site we do will use Access rather than mysql otherwise there are costs involved.
I also dont like PHP as its hacker friendly! and a few sites I have inherited from other companies which use php have been hacked.
as for ther search engine history, dont worry about this as its a speciality of mine and I know many tricks to keep old links and get the search engines to optimize new ones.
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I might pm - but I thought mysql was open source free, php being hacker friendly - do you mean susceptible to code injection via query?
Search engine stuff - once Chelsea build up is over i will pm you
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sallie
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Hi Guy - this is a message board forum - conversations led by threads. The sort of thing i was talking about is a 'live' chat room where people talk to each other and answer instantaneously It would not take away the serious aspect of gathering information, but it might help people keep intouch after a rotten day at work and/or training - infact they can be a great laugh.
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dibnahs-dad
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guy,
yep mysql is open source but most web hosts charge for setting up an SQL connection. I can set one up on the servers i use FOC but if the Db goes over 150mbytes then there is a charge. However the likelyhood of this happening is pretty slim.
I have been looking at e107 for the past couple of days and its at the top of my list of things to use as it does everything we'd need and more.
Chelsea build up, whats that then?
mike
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Lin Dyke
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In his spare time ( ) Guy runs The English Garden Carpentry Company and he exhibits at Chelsea Flower Show each year. Click the Epapneul Breton link in Guys' posts, scroll down a bit and you will see in left menu "site sponsored by The English Garden....." Click this link and you can see what Guy does as a hobby
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eddieh
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Sallie,
I think the chat room idea is great ( I certainly could have done with it today)
As far as the construction and maintenance of the website/forum is concerned, I have no technical competence. Having said that, my experience over the last 30 years as a service engineer has taught me one thing relevant to the failings of the current site and forum. No matter how well the website and forum is constructed, what the competence of the people responsible for the design or maintenance, it is the responsibility of the people using a facility to report failings of that facility. As long as this is done in a timely fashion and with respect for those maintaining the website, we should end up with what we want.
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eddieh
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Looking at my previous post, it is possible the use of bold, italicised and underlined type is a bit over the top and gives the impression that I am having a pop at everybody. I was just trying to emphasise something. Sorry
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johnhod
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| Quote: | | it is the responsibility of the people using a facility to report failings of that facility. |
If they can also be convinced to contribute that would be a bonus
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eddieh
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If they can also be convinced to contribute that would be a bonus |
Do you mean in the "help with maintenance" way or contribution of pictures and other content?
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johnhod
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I was thinking more of providing content or even just ideas. But I'm sure if people wanted to provide any level of help it would be appreciated.
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eddieh
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| johnhod wrote: | | But I'm sure if people wanted to provide any level of help it would be appreciated. |
It's something I'm prepared to consider. I'll have a chat at Stanford Hall
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Annie as admin
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| Quote: | | why should we do that? the conversation is relevant to the web site and this is the web site thread |
Because the majority of Club Members want to discuss content on here NOT how it is done.
A new thread has been opened specially for Guy, Mike and John, (and any other technos)where they can play to their hearts content.
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johnhod
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I agree that we should be discussing content but content has to go somewhere.
It may have run slightly out of control but I think this is about people being keen to work with you to help help improve the web page and therefore the club's exposure to the wider public. As you've said yourself it tends to be ignored and you have so many other things to do. I think things will improve more quickly if we can get interested people to work together.
7 out of 61 posts on this topic have some technical info on and they tend to be short postings, not exactly hijacking the thread is it?
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Victoria
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I am one along with heaps of others who have had the assistance of our technologically minded members. Thank you, you Brittechoes
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dibnahs-dad
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any information, comments or technical bits are always appreciated, the number of companies, organizations and clubs I deal with who dont communicate always staggers me.
Give us your ideas and lets get things moving.
"a better brittany club website, for brittany club owners"
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