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Minxhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/8279915.stm
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gundoglover
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A friend has a Brittany with both show and tracking championships. They certainly seem suited to the work if they have a competent trainer (alas, not me!)
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Ghilliegumdrop
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This is Merlin's half sister......brilliance runs in the family
I notice that they have it wrong again and are refering to her as a 'spaniel'
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doganjo
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Her handler has written an article for the next newsletter.
In Australia, can they get Show Championship Certificates if there is only one of that breed present - same as in NZ? And does that apply to trials as well?
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Lin Dyke
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Jan, is Minx one of Copper's litter He would be brilliant at that job too.
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gundoglover
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Yes, a CC can be awarded if there is only one representative of the breed, but a judge can refuse a CC if not sufficient quality and you need 100 points & compete against champions and grand champions (1000 points & 4 best in groups). In Australia, the CC points depend on the number of other dogs or bitches over 6 months that you defeat for the CC. So, although it is possible for a dog to get its championship without beating another dog, it rarely happens.
However, in NSW & Victoria, Brittanys are actively shown and it is very unusual to not have competition. This particular Brittany had to beat champions and grand champions to make up her title, and also went class in group on many occasions.
For tracking you compete against all breeds and need a minimum standard of good for each tracking test. The Brittany scored excellent for most of her tracks.
There is also a gorgeous black tricolour Brittany that made up her show championship and competes with distinction in agility. Her owner is much more interested in dog sports so we don't see her in the show ring any more, which is a pity. All five colours are permitted here (we follow the country of origin breed standard, ie, FCI). However, there are mostly clear orange & white in the ring.
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Ghilliegumdrop
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| Lin Dyke wrote: | Jan, is Minx one of Copper's litter He would be brilliant at that job too. |
No this litter was born 15/07/08, funny thing is I thought that Martin had a prefix ie; Broadwing, but he doesn't appear to have used it on this litter.
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doganjo
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Thanks, Gundoglover, with your permission I'll put some of that in breed notes? Do you have the name/breeding of these Brittanys? I'm sure everyone on here would like to know which French lines they come from
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Lin Dyke
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[No this litter was born 15/07/08, funny thing is I thought that Martin had a prefix ie; Broadwing, but he doesn't appear to have used it on this litter.[/quote]
I think the same as you Jan, Copper is "Broadwing Crafty Illusion". Do you know who her parents are
Just pretend this post doesn't exist, it came out all wrong and then I couldn't delete it
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Lin Dyke
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| Ghilliegumdrop wrote: | | Lin Dyke wrote: | Jan, is Minx one of Copper's litter He would be brilliant at that job too. |
No this litter was born 15/07/08, funny thing is I thought that Martin had a prefix ie; Broadwing, but he doesn't appear to have used it on this litter. |
Jan, I also think Martin's prefix is Broadwing as Copper is Broadwing Crafty Illusion. Do you know who her parents are
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Ghilliegumdrop
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Same as Copper...........Amber Hawk X Hawkwise Witchcraft
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Wyngold
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I think most all of the "French" lines in Australia come down from Joymond imports and those from Denmark (Black).
And very few that are 100% French. Seems they are looking for Fresh blood....
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Lin Dyke
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Thanks Jan
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doganjo
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| Wyngold wrote: | I think most all of the "French" lines in Australia come down from Joymond imports and those from Denmark (Black).
And very few that are 100% French. Seems they are looking for Fresh blood.... |
Thanks, Goldie.
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gundoglover
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I have no objection to the exploits of Aussie Brittanys being discussed, but you may wish to check with the owners of the dogs.
The profile of black tricolour with show & agility titles can be viewed at www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=9201
The owner's email address is given. I really like this bitch, although would prefer more of a blaze. I'm not sure how much French blood she has. The maternal grandsire goes back to imported USA lines, but the other lines are, I think, from the more original European imports. Your knowledge of these lines will be far superior to mine.
The show & tracking titled bitch is from all USA imported blood, so may be of less interest to you. Her name is Dual Ch (T) Magicbritt Finnistere (named for the region in Brittany). Her owner is Penelope (Nel) Paterson. Finn is a full sister to Ch Magicbritt Isabelle and the breeder's website & email details can be viewed at: www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=37693
I recommend that you ask Peter Marsh (the breeder) for permission and he can check with Nel.
I have no doubt that the owners of these dogs will be chuffed to hear that UK Brittany folk are interested in the exploits of their dogs.
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eddieh
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For the benefit of anybody who checked that link yesterday, it now goes to a page showing a video clip rather than a still.
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doganjo
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| Quote: | Sharnee is a black and white tricolour. She has all the Brittany enthusiasm, energy and desire to please. She is obsessed with hunting bugs, birds, beetles and everything that moves, swims or flies. But she will snooze at my feet while waiting for me to stop playing on the computer.
Agility is improving again, there hasn't been any birds in the ring lately, but she would much, much rather go hunting bunnies or birds.
Her 'sibling' Bree JDX GD AD is doing even better at Agility too. Brittanys do everything with enthusiasm! |
Just goes to show they are the same the World over!
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doganjo
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| eddieh wrote: | | For the benefit of anybody who checked that link yesterday, it now goes to a page showing a video clip rather than a still. |
No it doesn't
The first link is to an orange and white adn a black and white and agility stills, the second is to an American influenced (IMHO ) orange and white
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Wyngold
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The Gamewyn kennel was the one that tried to Register my Kennel name Wyngold in Australia. If it wasn't for Annie Rogers letting me know it might have happened!
Yes I think that crossing the two line does have some benefits so long as one can select correct type!
The Black bitch is lovely in type and head piece.
Not having a blaze can be very typical with any Black or Liver dog they always have more color on the head as the pigment moves slowly. So when looing at pups and you want a "blaze" select the absolute widest one you cna find in a Black or Liver. The french prefer a Narrow "Blaze" and many who breed Tricolors don't want a blaze for some reason I have heard that said many times...
The second bithc is lovely American type with very good balanced movement. Slightly down in the face which is happening in most American dogs out of theselines....And let me say right up that these are th exact same American lines I have dealt with for many years...
Generaly great hips, soundness and health, but poor heads if one is not careful. I owned Bent Oak Me'chant Bretagne behind many dogs.
Great early hunting desire much stronger than some French lines that are often much slower in developing. But that is just in the lines I delt with.
Fun to see what is being combined! I like the effects so far.
Wish many were not so stuck up about country pedigrees as the breed as a whole could benefit!
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Lin Dyke
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Annie you're looking at the wrong link. Eddie is referring to the link in Sue's original post about Minx, the search and rescue Brittany with Devon & Cornwall police. She is a sister of our Copper but from a different litter.
Thanks for the info Eddie. Lovely hearing her being called a Brittany. Shame they didn't use her for the demo, I expect she went too fast for the cameraman to keep up
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Lin Dyke
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We appear to have a second thread in with the one about Minx, re' Australian, NZ and American topics.
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doganjo
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Yes, but Guy isn't here to separate them.
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Lin Dyke
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Annie did you watch the video in Sue's link
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eddieh
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| Lin Dyke wrote: | Annie you're looking at the wrong link. Eddie is referring to the link in Sue's original post about Minx, the search and rescue Brittany with Devon & Cornwall police. She is a sister of our Copper but from a different litter.
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Sorry Lin and Annie. My fault. I should have said "the original link"
I like the black tricolour on the dog walk. Shame the weave had to be taken using such a long lens. Needs must.......
Still a very nice shot though. Not easy to catch a dog in frame and in focus on a run. Especially when it's coming toward you!
BTW
Nice to see you are still here Wyngold. I don't comment on your posts as I usually have nothing useful to say. I enjoy reading them though.
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