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Victoria
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should't be making this admission but the river has been the recourse for me re washing dog once or twice... Wink  Wink...he got his title after a natural bathe!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bathing in the water found on our walks would probably ensure a lot of space to ourselves at a show. Wouldn't it Gay.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



like this, Eddie!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks like a good source of drinking water in comparison. I think the only thing which keeps the smell in is the thick layer of duck weed and if your dog has any white on it there's a good chance it won't when it comes out.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Well I am impressed that there are people out there who DO care about what there dogs look like and how clean they should be for showing.
I have to say Mabeleen NEVER gets washed if she is not going to shows. She has had a long rest since LKA last year so has only seen the muddy puddles she fines on a walk.
Patricia your post was completly right and very well said, trimming should only be done to make the dog look balanced and not to see who can trim the best. We are lucky in Brits the little coat they have is easy to keep clean and trimmed.
You try trimming a full coated male Welsh, I used to show a dog called Sh Ch Highclare Bosons Mate and if taking him to cruft's it would take me about 15 hours over 3 weeks to get him ready. once he got 8 CC I gave up as I hated the hours it took me.
As far as usuing Fairy Liqiquid is concerned it is very safe to use and I have put it on every dog I can in my palour for the last 30 years and NEVER had a problem, the reason is that the dogs coat (not skin) can take any sort of hash abraceive liquied, because the coat is a harsh warm protector and is desined to do excactly that protect the skin. Of course if you are putting fairy on be sure you rince if ALL off or you may have problems in the long term. Of course Fairy is for washing dishes but it is great for getting all the dirt and old oils off the dogs coat. Just as a little trick I use COMFORT on the feathers as it stops static and smells nice.
This will make your eyes water but I also put neat Peroxide well 9% Peroxide on white coat feathers that are yellow with pee and it never hurts the coat. I have to say please do not do this on Brits bacause you will turn any roaning yellow.
Talking of roaning if the roaning is of a heavy type then yes treat it as orange coat, if it is light roaning then use a little Fairy with a little red coat shampoo together and that works a treat!

Gill and that Mabeleen who looks a mess.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well being as my husband is the person [chemist] that did the formulations for Proctor and Gamble re Fairy Liquid and other detergents on the market I think that he should know what he is talking about, and to be honest, if he says they are too harsh for coats/hair then I, for one, will not be using them. Why, when there are so many products made just for dogs, do you want to use something made for washing dishes and putting in the washing machine Question
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gill, do you mean using Fairy on legs and trousers? Stained?
I used Fairy on horses tails mainly...for greys, finish with a " blue bag". I don''t think you find those any more?
I like Mink oil shampoo from Simpsons,but then again, it is one I use quite a bit. I try not to bath the top of the back of the Brittanys not to soften it if I have to bath the dog close to a show. We live on the farm, and big " No No" bringing muddy dogs!
Otherwise a good general purpose. If sensitive skin, baby shampoo!
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highclare
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spot on Patricia.
I am not telling people to use Fairy I am just advicing you what I use and what I have found to be the best for dogs coats over the many many years I have been grooming and showing.
People have to do what they think is right for there dogs, I couldn't care less.
Passing on tips for grooming and shampooing dogs is what this forum is for and I bow to the chemist person but as I have said I have never had one promlem with useing Fairy in all the years of grooming.
Yes the fairy I use is for the feathers and NOT on the colour part of the coat as it will dry the coat out and can make the coat go scurfy.
Alot of people do not wash the backs of there dogs as in the brits it is important that the true texture of the coat is maintained for both the dog and the judge. (There is a difference between goaty texture and plain dirt!)

I will tell you a funny story which some have heard. I was judging an exemption show (companion show). I looked across the ring and there was a young Irish Setter and it looked a funny colour, when I got to it and put my hands on it it was sticky and yellow, I asked the exibitor what had she put on her dogs coat, she proudly anounced egg, I said egg she said well my breeder said that egg was good for the coat I said in her ear, I think your breeder meant that the egg was to go in the dog not on the dog. We both laughed but that same girl continued to show Irish Setters and had 2 champions but didn't use egg ON the coat again.

Gill with no egg on Mabeleens coat
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what would you use for wet " pink" feet? who usually are OK in summer?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK Patricia, It depends why they are pink? is it because the feet are being chewed so go pink though siliver on the feet, or is it where the dog has been exercised. If it is licking it could be started be field mites and a dose of Frontline directly on and between the feet may stop the licking and chewing. If it is where the dog gets exercised then 1 change the walks and 2 wash the feet in a mixture of vinigar and warm water every time the dog comes in for a walk (qiute difficult on a farm).
In Welsh they get pink feet though stress and to much wheat in there diet.
I once breed a litter that all the pups in the litter chewed there feet all the time. I never used the dogs at stud and only one bitch had pups, not mine but she passed the art of sucking feet on to her pups. So pink feet could be a big subject and not even the experts have a definitive view on it. Its a bit like why do dogs eat there own poo no one really knows but there are loads of iders out there to why?

Gill and Mabeleen who will if I am not looking eat her poo Uck!


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