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doganjo
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably in house this year,  Sue, John A, possibly Fiona, plus one other possibility - not confirmed yet
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do we not know of other trainers for a different perspective and approach?? Every trainer has their own way of thinking...and doing...
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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I leave that to John - we have to think of costs as well
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just think from time to time we need some " fresh ideas", we can all become stale.
I think like Guy says, maybe a working test in a format of training day?
In a GWT, you have puppy, Novice, special beginner  to open...So, different levels,  short seen retrieves, a bit of obedience  up to much higher levels.
How about Di Arrowsmith? I was told years ago she was good with puupies?? Only ideas, nothing else meant!
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you should bring this up at Committee level.  Unless someone mentions it to John very soon it will be too late for this year.  At the moment  we have 5 for the training day.  If anyone else wants to come please let me know.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had originally planned to attend the training day but  unfortunately will now only be there for the show on Sunday.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In a GWT, you have puppy, Novice, special beginner  to open...So, different levels,  short seen retrieves, a bit of obedience  up to much higher levels.


This sounds a good way forward, my only concern would be that it might lead to a bigger fracturing of the EB community.

1) Would dogs still be excepted if they do not have KC papers?

2) These events could become even more localised within the already established training region; so that people from the extreme parts of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland feeling even more excluded.

Thats only my thoughts anyway; i am not a member, but i hope i raised some valid points.

As you know i prefer to go with well established localised private trainers - this to me is cost effective, another point that you should think about Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogs without KC papers - I assume you mean 'pedigree' papers can register with the KC Activity register and are then able to compete in certain events.

I don't think the club days should be seen as an alternative to a local trainer or mentor.  They are aimed at training like with like.  Very few local trainers have experience with HPRs.  They are also a chance to share experience with similar minded people.

I am with you on the problem of centralised events disenfranchising distant members.  But it is hard enough to align venues and trainers to the current scheme - this does not mean it would not be possible to vary the venue - just it might not be as straight forward as it might seem.  The reverse argument also applies, to the organisers - to create experiences in different parts of the country from scratch requires a lot of time and effort - putting a great strain on a single individual with regards their time and travel - to inspect, arrange, attend etc.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the moment, I think that the only things that 'unregistered' dogs can do when put onto the working register is obedience and agility. Possibly also working trials, it's a shame that the KC don't let unregistered gundogs do a form of gundog working test of some description. If a breed club runs a training event then I think that any dog of that breed should be allowed to enter even if it is not KC registered. After all the owners may then be encouraged to buy a dog that is registered next time they purchase a pup.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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. If a breed club runs a training event then I think that any dog of that breed should be allowed to enter even if it is not KC registered. After all the owners may then be encouraged to buy a dog that is registered next time they purchase a pup.


I wasn't aware that an unregistered Brittany couldn't attend a training session. My understanding was that Club members have preference if we have surplus of entries, and many Club members have other breeds.  Perhaps we need a Committee ruling.  At the moment we have 5 dogs booked in for the Training Day in June - Allez, Belle, Bella, Tegen, and Smotyn.  From a Treasurer's point of view that isn't enough to be viable.  Any more coming?  I can wait for the form and money so long as I have a commitment



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