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sallie
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off track, but if things are published on the net - they somehow enter the public domain. This i found out when a friend published one of Monets photos on her training poster Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil  Asked where she got it from and she said 'google'. I said about copyright and she said that because the photos were on images, she could take/use them (argument ensued and needless to say she changed her posters).  

Would this not happen when database is released on the net... couldn't people just help themselves to your dogs id? How would you protect yourselves and your dogs? I'm a bit ignorant on this subject so would like to know more.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghilliegumdrop wrote:
If the source of the data on this site is our own breed data.....what is the point of having both Question  Question


'WE' don't have both.  And her data is not only sourced from ours. She has Brittanys from all over the World on her database. I have no idea where she got it all from.  Sylvia is an independent person and has taken it on herself to set up databases for as many gundogs pedigrees as she can.  In the same way, Carolina Brittanys have done just that, but again they are not connected to the BCGB or to the breed in the  UK. Perhaps Sylvia got her data from them.  She is not in any way connected to  the Club, or the Breed - she has Weimaraners.  She has put a number of features on there that we don't have on ours which is why I mentioned it.  But she does not have  access to the BRS as yet so I have no idea when or if she will update the database she has already put up.  She is a member of the Working HPR Forum.  I don't know her personally.  I'm beginning to wish I hadn't mentioned it at all! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  poor Anne.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely, if it's only dogs names there can't be an infringment of copyright or their human rights Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Pedigree Databases Reply with quote

Actually they benefit all breeders.
The Epagneul Breton one managed by Kevin is of only EB and includes
Finish, Canadian, UK, and French databases.

The one hosted by Brittany.org is of strictly American and original French imports or Modern French lines that have aquired an AKC title ie.
FC Grand Tank du Fayette.

The Breeders Standard offers a pay for service online use of mined pedigrees from public domains ie. the OFA public hip and genetic database, or when owners of other programs upgraded and had the3ir databases converted by the company, they retained it and now offer a pay service.  Lots of ethical issues on this bunch...

One can also purchase the AKC studbooks online in its monthly print out by breed.  But oc course it does not delineate AB from EB and since there are a large number that are interbred it is dificult to dicern what is what.

UKC does not offer purchase of their studbook so what is actually registered seems to be a mystery.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't me that said 'WE'.....is that the 'Royal' by the way Question

God you are a touchy b....r at times woman Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it any wonder! with people banging on about human rights and copyright etc

Anyway, I checked with Sylvia and she got her information from the BRS and other sources, not from our database.  If you look at her site you will see she has a few breeds on there - and very useful they are too. Cool  Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to rattle my chain and lunge on the collar (some might suggest a choke her chain Smile ), maybe a pedigree name is perhaps copyright????   No one else in the FCI affiliates can use anyone else's stud name so perhaps it is a greyer area than it appears  at first glance....just a thought!!!!!   And really, what gives anyone the right to list anyone's dog on any list????   Do the listors ever gain permission from the listee to use the name of the listed???
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you listing here Victoria......too much of the old vino Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil



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