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Patricia
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Anne...Yes, Darcy will be confirmed at 47 cms...and with a level bite( teeth not undershot but both sets touch each other)...I don't want a dog of that size but a " real" male of at least 5ocms. I would rather leave it behind and lose my money( which I have)than breed inferior quality  Mad   Toscane is 49, the rest a good 48 1/2, my Du Petit Odon 50, so... I don't want a male smaller than the girls Rolling Eyes  Very Happy  
The ideal states" 50" for a dog. 3 cms is a lot Exclamation
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doganjo
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps I read it wrong but I think what Patricia means is that Darcy is too small and shouldn't have been confirmed.  The result is she won't take him into the Uk, and has therefore lost her money. - is that right Patricia?
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Patricia
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly it is right Anne. I have made a really big mistake in searching for that" perfect tailless dog" which would be(or so I had hoped) the solution to all my problems Idea
Pedigree is great, an" 8 point" litter with field trialled parents on both immediate parents etc...cob.
I will simply not import something as extreme in size as that. It will be a lesson in buying a puppy. Crying or Very sad I can forgive some conformation faults to some extent as you can improve but...not size and teeth as well!
I was lucky to get a replacement in the shape of Chriss before and so was the lovely kennel of the Val di Grossa with another breeder. I don't somehow think this will be the same scenario here. You buy a pup, " fingers crossed" it will be OK or .. if not...bad luck Crying or Very sad
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Patricia
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anne...You're right. I don't think it should be confirmed. But it will be and that makes me mad as potentially THAT can be bred from.
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Anne Eissing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doganjo wrote:
Perhaps I read it wrong but I think what Patricia means is that Darcy is too small and shouldn't have been confirmed.  The result is she won't take him into the Uk, and has therefore lost her money. - is that right Patricia?


Too fast reading and too bad english! Bad combination!  Embarassed
You are right Annie, thank you, now I understand. But with 47 cm for a male he must be confirmed as the standard says. Like Patricia said I also donīt want to have a male with 47 cm. But as a puppy you canīt see how the height will be at the end.

The teeth constallation called pincers bite in Germany, you cannot breed with a dog who has such a bite in Germany, but I donīt know how it is handled in France.
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Patricia
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anne, your English is very good, I don't speak German as we learnt Spanish at school( Latin based so easier for me) Very Happy
Yes, 47 cms is in the standard, but No I don't like  very small Brittanys-jmo...
-teeth: pincers ie "en pince" in French. It is fine, I have checked with 2 senior judges. OK, they would not get a CAC- but who knows?- but if an otherwise excellent specimen, would get placed. Level is not undershot which is not allowed in the French standard. Though it calls for a " scissor" bite". all grey areas?
The pup is 10 months now, by then the finished height is not far off apart from a bit. And if there is " knuckle" ie some bone growth left on the wrist. There wasn't.
I should have looked harder on the pedigree to double check on the line breeding side.
I am passionate about the breeding of these dogs. it is a fascinating subject. I enjoy reading the results of the field dogs .
Well done in running in Vimpelles, any dogs which struck you as excellent?
We look forward to seeing you again...  Cool
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Anne Eissing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the winner of the Derby in Chateau Landon "Coquin des Tilleuls de St. Georges", owned by M. Boursereau. We saw him at Gurcy le Chatel. He was in our group and did a really good run, saidly he pushed partridges so he was eliminated. But we took photos of him because we like his standard and his colour very much. I think you would like him too. Look at his site:

http://www.chiens-de-france.com/s...ID_SITE=2361&PK_RUBRIQUE=7362

I didnīt know him and his kennel before. He was bred from Indy de St. Lubin/Keranlouan/Kervaillant. Very interesting I think. It would be interested to see his brothers and sisters. Perhaps he will come to Gujan Mestras. Do you know the Breeder and the breed?

Hope to see you in Gujan-Mestras. I will fly with Bolko to the N.E.. (Bolkos flight is more expensive than my flight  Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad )
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Patricia
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes,I agree Anne, he looks a really nice dog with exellent Bretons like Indy, Rapide and Milord. I had heard about the latter through George Riva...Indeed an interesting pedigree. Now, do you know if he is tailless?
There is no way I am buying a puppy now as it is too much of a gamble. and far to expensive if things go wrong. Confused I was lucky with Jean Marc Binet who guarantees confirmation, took Clochette to do her TAN, 2 shows etc...
I should have stuck to my original plan to use an Anoure or Brachyoure stud in France.
We are going to Gujan, though I don't think I will be taking my bitch who will have had puppies and she may have a saggy undercarriage. And that wouldn't do! Instead, I will go and support her brother Chase Cool
If Coquin is there, I shall look forward to seeing him in the flesh.
How are your puppies doing from Venus?
We shall see you in France then... Very Happy


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