... We do have access to other Brittany blood through the passport. Some of us have made use of it and it does not have to be too expensive....
Maybe I am being completely thick here but surely we are not saying that this 'problem' colour originated in the UK? Therefore surely it could still crop up even if using dogs from France or elsewhere. The dog could carry the gene although it may not be expressed. As I understand it the only two ways to be sure are to use a 'true' tricolour or have the test. _________________ If your dog thinks you are the best do not seek a second opinion!
True tricolour and have the test anyway.....and what about those people who [for whatever reason] don't wish to go abroad _________________ Jan
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To me, the integrity factor makes the difference between breeding pedigree dogs and mongrels.
The standard is a written description of the ideal Brittany specimen, so it therefore follows that the aspects it describes should distinguish that breed of dog from every other breed of dog in the gundog group.
The various elements are described so that anyone , as well as show judges, can make an informed decision about what that breed should look like.
If the standard does not include things like prick ears, sloping croup, hare like paws and sable colour - it is not acceptable and that is it.
Breeders with integrity should make decisions based upon the two individuals they want to mate and whether they compliment each other, relative to the existing breed standard.
The sable colour is being debated because it has never been included as an acceptable colour in the first place. It has only become an issue in relatively recent times and the fact that people are now breeding them and producing them is no reason to suddely make them an acceptable colour. What if blue merle's suddenly appeared - would we then accept them with open arms too and change the standard to suit? _________________ Home of the canine "Spice Girls" - Spice, Sophie & Kip - and Lou the sheepdog.
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]Breeders with integrity should make decisions based upon the two individuals they want to mate and whether they compliment each other, relative to the existing breed standard.
Again this is true. If a Stud dog does not have the necessary attributes for your breeding bitches, then you have to look elsewhere. Like I did not mate my Ch bitch to my stud dog as he is the top end of the standard and she is 49 cms. So, I went to a dog whose progeny I really like and enhances what I look for. Also strenghtening natural retrieving ability, good game sense but above all trainability. Nor will I mate him to my French import as they both have a similar fault- very slight I will say-
When I brought in Spot de Keranlouan into the UK, and though he is a good looking dog and fantastic worker, I decided to sell him on after seeing some of his puppies. Many were really quite large and some looked like Setters lacking barrel. I was told from France than having Italian blood, then ? I do not want oversize Brittanys even though we don't measure in the UK.
It is all about doing your best, or trying anyway...
So even though height is included in the breed standard we choose not to follow it (accurately), where this could have a bearing on working ability. Yet we are expected to pay full attention to colour which is highly unlikely to affect working ability, unless compounded by other problems. _________________ My goal in life is to be as good a person as my dog already thinks I am.
John,
We have to follow the KC rules. If you measure or intend to, you have to warn the society. It is OK to do it at a Club show but -as I have found out- you have to give warning. But I have a slightly bigger Cirneco who was top of his breed in the UK, but...abroad he would be 1 cm too big. Hence I bought him for my son but still can show him here if I wish
I won't go on about colours anymore, it is simple for me, I follow FCI standard.
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? I do not want oversize Brittanys even though we don't measure in the UK.
