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doganjo
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must come up and try our mountains sometime. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave A works his dogs on the moors (only the English ones as far as I know and obviously they're not as tough as the Scottish ones)  and I've worked Moss on moorland as well, fortunatley not for too long as I think you really need at least a brace working in rotation.  It is tough going on the older heather and while Moss didn't look as graceful as the pointers that were there he worked his ground, found game and pointed it long enough for the guns to get into position.  So if you're looking for something moves elegantly go for a pointer, if you want game in the bag and don't mind being seen at the end of the day with a dog in tow that looks more like a bundle of soaking rags use a Brittany.

A bit of a generalisation I know, but why not Question  Twisted Evil  Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well put John!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the being ontop of the game before pointing issue! , firstly wind speed is the main decider in the distance a dog will come on to point , also as i have worked both breeds extensively i can say that the pointer has a longer nose (scent range) than the gsp and will pic up a scent of game much sooner than the gsp and then move and creep in , the gsp is often quite a fewe yards behind in terms of picking up any scent . This also means that usually the pointer will point solidly at a longer distance from the quarry , to get this sort of nose indicator a gsp needs to be much closer....hence you are less likley to bump game with a pointer......


I saw this on another forum for falconers etc and thought it manswer a question or start a new round ??

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should say " may answer a question " must start to read before i hit the submit button
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Pointer versas Brittany?? Reply with quote

Patricia wrote:
My daughter has decided to go out with a Falconer Exclamation
Tonight the discussion was lively on whether one should be " proper" and work an English Pointer rather than an HPR. The GSP in his case, being called a " disapointer" Confused  Idea
This is actually quite a soft dog -with a tail- God forbids working anything else than an Irish Red and White or a Pointer in conjunction with a Peregrine Flacon.
I called him a snob Cool ...Now, maybe Des could enlighten me to what is superior about the Pointer and why can't a Brittany do the job as well????????????Sorry if I show my ignorance. My daughter is now hiding in embarrassment Wink


Little is disapointing about a Gsp - one only has to see how many are registered each year to back that point. I love the breed and found them ideal as an all-round hawking dog. I have seen plenty worked with success and admitedly a Gsp may not have the finesse of a pointer whilst on point, I would wager that alot of hpr's seem more trainable and are within the realms of most to bring up to a decent level of obedience in the field.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patricia, this post is really interesting...I watched a gundog DVD (American) cannot remember by whom nor what falcon was being used; but there was a guy with a French Brittany...they were in openl rough...the Breton was wicked...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Victoria wrote:
...the Breton was wicked...



That because they are....  Good things come in small packages  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone out there who flies a peregrine Falcon?
Do you need to drive round fields with a set of binoculars spotting coveys of- English- partridges? Then let the dog out and set him to hold point?
Is this how everybody does it? I don't go on Falconers's forums Confused
Please if you have the answer...The poor GSP was worn out after a run in our fields and spent his night ...snoring Cool
If you can enlighten me Wink
I think some are worried by the speed of a Brittany Idea . To me that is the essence of the breed, cover the ground efficiently in order to find game quickly.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aw, could the poor GSP not keep up?  These Frenchies can show anyone a clean pair of heels! Wink  Laughing  Laughing



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