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Pippa's Pack
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, need to be serious again.  After what has been said to me recently and what has been said today, I feel I need to clarify my earlier post, although I did feel at the time I had made my feelings clear.

I did not 'take sides' in this matter.  I advocated talking face to face about the problems.  What I did say, and stand by, is as follows:

If anyone is nasty due to jealousy or envy this is their problem.  The operative word in this context being IF.

Manner of grooming - owner's choice

Typical or not? - Matter of opinion

Leaving on the bench - felt this should not happen - suggested asking another exhibitor to help out.

Interferance against the owner's wishes - should not happen

Reporting to Chairman or Committee - suggested this was not the best way forward - better to talk to the people in person.

I have re-read this post.  This was meant to be a helpful and constructive answer.  On reflection I believe it was just that.  Obviously some people think otherwise.  I am sorry they feel this way but, at the risk of repeating what I said at the beginning:

[b]This is their problem - not mine.[/b]
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think anything else than your post was intended to be helpful and constructive.  If anyone has been getting you at the show today I agree it is THEIR problem.  why can't everyone just enjoy our breed without having to be so competitive that it turns them nasty?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gay,
Remember it was me that started this thread and as far as I am concerned your oppinion was most welcome. I have know knowlage of anyone getting at you but what you said was your oppinion so please don't worry.
You are still a little star.

Gill and the Mabeleen
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some really nasty people in this world it would seem.  I am disgusted; I have been on the end of abusing and bullying phone calls, and I am not happy about someone upsetting my good and very kind natured friend in this manner.  If anyone has anything to say they should say it in public.  

I agree entirely with Gay - grooming is personal choice, type is personal choice,  I wouldn't leave my dogs on benches for long periods without asking someone I trusted to take the dog for a wee if it was necessary but equally I would be very angry if anyone took it off the bench without letting me know first - that's what mobile phones and paper and pens are for.
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Paris M
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Lets get things straight Reply with quote

highclare wrote:
, next I was accused of Mabeleen having the look of american breeding, then someone sayed to a friend of mine that Mabeleen was of course not a real Brittany,

I have been told that Mabeleen isn't very typical.



If she has been awarded 15 CCs how can she not be a typical Brittany? Surely all the judges are judging to the breed standard, if they did not believe that she was not a great example of type why would they continously award her such accolades?

I am very new to showing Brits, only owned one of the breed for 4 years and started showing in the last six months. I must say in my experience that most of the BCGB members have been very helpful, I have had a few people come up to me at shows who have introduced themselves and been very pleasant . At my first open show Amanda Ellis was very helpful, I didn't know you had to trim a brittany  Rolling Eyes she was very nice, gave me advice on grooming and even offered to trim Clover for me before we went in the ring, I thought that was a very nice gesture indeed. I think I am probably a bit standoffish at champ shows  Embarassed , I get very nerveous and fuss around, i tend to keep quiet as I am trying to keep myself calm before I go in the ring, my first experience of a champ show was rather bad so i tend to be a bit on edge  Smile But I don't mean to be offensive to others and I hope it doesn't come across like it.

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I think the main problem with some people is pure jealousy


I know that people often refer to dog showing as a hobby, but to me it is more like a sport. Surely everyone wants their dog to win so its envitable that people are going to be jealous of a winning dog. I have certainly been guilty of this. Its a competition afterall, this is not to say that the comments and actions directed towards you are to be condoned. As for interference at the ringside, this is my worst nightmare  Sad but I didn't think it went on in the Brittany? Obviously I am very much a newbie, i'm prepared to be corrected if any of my comments are ignorant  Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surely all the judges are judging to the breed standard
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This isn't intended as an insult to either Mabeleen or to Paris M

I'll let you work out for yourselves who it's aimed at
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Paris M
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surely all the judges are judging to the breed standard

Perhaps I should have subsituted 'surely' with the word supposedly Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not at all.

"Surely" had me rolling on the floor, funniest thing I've read all week.  Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnhod wrote:
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Surely all the judges are judging to the breed standard
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This isn't intended as an insult to either Mabeleen or to Paris M

I'll let you work out for yourselves who it's aimed at


I like to think that the Judges I help to train at our Seminars do.



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