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glynis
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Goldie, I fully agree with your comments regarding health checks.  I have already had my Brittany hip AND elbow scored and she will also have an annual eye test.  As I also have labradors I already test for gPRA in that breed but am not aware of a genetic test for this in Brittanys.  If nothing else it allows me to have a handle on the health status of my own stock.  I have been told by many that "there are no eye problems in the breed" but that begs the question of a) how can we be sure? and b) an individual dog can have a problem that is not genetically related but still needs attending to.
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Patricia
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldie, can you link me to the French Forum reports of puppies going blind please? I must have missed it...
We certainly actively encourage people to report any health problems to our health co ordinator Kathy Gorman...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patricia wrote:
Goldie, can you link me to the French Forum reports of puppies going blind please? I must have missed it...
We certainly actively encourage people to report any health problems to our health co ordinator Kathy Gorman...


The first instance was very early in the start of the Forum....a guy from Greece picking up an 8 week old pup that was blind  accordihng to their vet when they got home. Came from a well know kennel in north France

Another was posted about 2 years ago they got it from a breeder in the south from a magazine ad....never got a reply from then when I wrote private so cant tell you where they got it from.


Another was posted about a dog going blind at age 7....others telling it was probably trauma and how they had similar instances...so this tells me there are more situations never mentioned.

All one has to do is face the facts that the breed is a conglomerate of other breeds well represented with genetic issues.

As for gPRA testing none has been made for Brittanys.  Why??? because we owners of the breed keep our heads in the sand or do not want to let anyone know "we" have an issue.   If those who have issues do not report them or submitt DNA to the agencies doing research then we are the loosers.   We do have the Private resarch agency based in UC Davis Veterinary school that has a Brittany specific database where aI have submitted DNA samples of my Affected French dogs with issues as well as American dogs.  They are not pedigree biased like the rest of the USA and accept dna submissions from everyone regardless of country of pedigree.
I have had "genetic" hypothyroid, luxated lens, Vascular Ring anomaly, right aortic arch, livershunts, cerebellar ataxia, cataracts in both American and French imports....and I have had Protien loosing enteropathy & epilepsy diagnosed in 3 French lined dogs that were brought to my attention by those looking to get another dog.
So "I" know there are issues in the breed no matter what others say.
And if the French say "setters" influenced the bree then by all means we have those setter issues to deal with, if the French say we have Springer blood inthe breed then by all means we have Springer genetic issues in our breed.   Plane simple deductions that is all.

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Patricia
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting post Goldie...
Unforunately, how do you get results back when you send them to the US? Or feed back?
I had produced a fitting puppy( occasional but still...)now in his late years...I had all relations tested I could find and paid for the ones who did not belong to me. Sent the blood samples for the DNA to the animal health trust, Newmarket. This was sent to the university of Missouri...but nothing ever came of it????Disappointing.
No one wants to sell a defective animal to some poor new owner?
I still feel that compared to dogs like Springers, we are lucky in that generaly the breed is quite healthy?>???
What is hypothyroidism?
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doganjo
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TRhere are "French" lined dogs and others with these conditions reported just luckily none reported thus far in the UK apparently.


It might be helpful if you were to qualify this with facts.  Can you tell us which French lined dogs may have it in case future new imports carry it.
Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doganjo wrote:
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TRhere are "French" lined dogs and others with these conditions reported just luckily none reported thus far in the UK apparently.


It might be helpful if you were to qualify this with facts.  Can you tell us which French lined dogs may have it in case future new imports carry it.
Thank you.


Send me an email at Ranchknls@aol.com
with specific question about the lines you are interested in and I will let you know if I have data on the dogs inb question.
Generally one does not posts others dogs names on a public forum.



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