Then, am I right in thinking that the one on the BCGB website is not an updated one?
It should be identical to that on the KC website as I copied and pasted it directly from there. Please let me know if it isn't and I will update the Club site.
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the lethal gene associated with bobs
This has not as yet been proved and references to it state that the lethality (if there is any) is in the first trimester and is likely to be prior to implant.
If you are trying to hassle me for an answer on what I will do with longtailed pups then please don't as all of this is at the moment supposition. I could have sold 4 longtailed pups last time round. Not everyone likes short tails.
Annie
I asked the same question as Victoria (ie if only breeding for natural bobtails,what happens to the long tail siblings) some weeks ago.
If breeders want to breed natural bobtail to natural bobtail, so be it.
If breeders want to carry on the status quo and combine natural bobtail and longtail options - so be it.
The UK legislation is in place,so maybe it is time to embrace the longtail.They are after all legal, so can be shown,hunted,field trialled and registered with the Kennel Club.
Natural bobtails DO occur all around the world and all we breeders can do is voice our opposition to to changes (like docking) that our government's intend to introduce.
If they choose to legislate and ban docking - so be it.
We breeders have to ADAPT and preserve this wonderful breed within the legislation of our individual countries WORLDWIDE.
Where the legislation has already been passed, with no right of appeal,
I vote EMBRACE AND ACCEPT THE LONGTAIL.
I also repeat my earlier statement that if it had been easy to eliminate the longtail from the gene pool and thus breed bobtails only, it would have been done generations ago. _________________ Home of the canine "Spice Girls" - Spice, Sophie & Kip - and Lou the sheepdog.
I may be absent in mind and body but always addicted to man's best friend.
A dog doesn't care how much you know until he knows how much you care.
No one wants to nor can eliminate the longtail - there are only a few breeds where the short tail is dominant and therefore breed true to type.
There was a long tailed black and white bitch at Birmingham Championship Show recently which someone asked if it was a small Munsterlander. This is why our breed must have short tails IF POSSIBLE. But NOT to the detriment of the breed. No one in their right minds would say "I'm going to use Stud Dog A in preference to Stud dog B purely because he was born with a short tail" It is distinctly possible that Stud dog B was born with not a full length tail and therefore might sire short, long or bob tails - it is very much a 'suck it and see' situation. And yes, I agree, we must therefore adapt to this. I don't personally like Brittanys with long tails. I have seen them, gone over them, shown them in Scandinavia. They move differently, they don't look typical of the breed IMHO
Annie
Annie, you will see from my notes in the show posting that recently,I had Sophie (who is docked) at a show where she was mistaken for a Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever - so it is not necessarily only the length of tail that causes confusion when people try to recognise the breed.
I along with no doubt plenty of other breeders of the Brittany ,agree that the "look" of the Brittany will change from what is dominant in the showring now BUT what is the point of bashing against a brick wall if the legislation is already in place to accept the longtail? Sooner or later they will appear in numbers in the ring - that is inevitable isnt it?
You state that your preference is for a short or bobtailed Brittany - so what would you do in a situation where you had two excellent exhibits of the breed infront of you - one with a long tail and one bobtail?
What will aspiring show judges be advised to do in a similar situation?
Does the club intend running any seminars to alert aspiring show judges
about the impact of the legislation on the breed in the showring? _________________ Home of the canine "Spice Girls" - Spice, Sophie & Kip - and Lou the sheepdog.
I may be absent in mind and body but always addicted to man's best friend.
A dog doesn't care how much you know until he knows how much you care.
Sorry Chris but if someone mistook Sophie for a Duck Toller they need their eyes testing. Was it one of the judges? If so what are they doing judging the breeds in the first place without reading the standards, and if it was another show person...........well, all I can say about that is they don't know either the Brittany OR the Duck Toller. The two breeds are nothing alike. One is like a Border Collie gone wrong and the other is a BRITTANY
Jan
I dont know who she was Jan. At least her comment was better than what I got once with Spice at a show - while standing outside the gundog ring waiting for our turn,a man asked me if she was a pedigree or a cross bred dog!!!!!
The NSDTR is also a rare breed in NZ, so I guess the lady didnt have much to go on. _________________ Home of the canine "Spice Girls" - Spice, Sophie & Kip - and Lou the sheepdog.
I may be absent in mind and body but always addicted to man's best friend.
A dog doesn't care how much you know until he knows how much you care.
If you are trying to hassle me for an answer on what I will do with longtailed pups then please don't as all of this is at the moment supposition. I could have sold 4 longtailed pups last time round. Not everyone likes short tail
I am not directing the question to you specifically, Annie. It is a question directed at anyone willing to answer it. And why you should consider this as me hassling you, I do not know. Although I must say, I have not yet forgiven you for your snide personal remark to me regarding the tailless factor in the Breton in New Zealand as probably being a non-event. I could drop the names of famous French families coursing through the veins of my boy or that of an illustrious UK dog to which Gaston has a direct lineage but I would not be so crass to do so. Suffice to say, the tailless factor is alive and well in New Zealand and is of as much a concern to us as to the rest of the world. And while there may be those who consider the Breton fancy in this country as utterly insignificant (we have a population of only 4,000,000, for Pete's sake) we are part of the global elevage de Breton. _________________ "...amitie, respect mutuel et amour..."
snide personal remark to me regarding the tailless factor in the Breton in New Zealand
I'm sorry but I really and truly don't remember saying(nor even implying) any of that - I did wonder why you were a bit huffy with me - I don't know why what I wrote came across like that - certainly not my intention. Could you email me privately and quote what i said then perhaps I canwork out what you mean? I am totally puzzled, honestly, because I don't know anything at all about any of your breeding over there so I wouldn't have the right nor the knowledge to comment. This HAS to be a misreading and misunderstanding.
Annie
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One is like a Border Collie gone wrong and the other is a BRITTANY 
