Well done Anne and Allez Now you know why its so incredible exiting . Is it anything who is more beautiful to look at than your dog pointing. Then we can talk about adrenalin kick
I would belive that to learn him slow down a bit, is to after every point and the "episode" is finished , really calm him down, I usually take a break for about 5-10 minuts with young dogs. I am also sure this experience will do that he feels and understand what's happening :
Working with and for you.
When the dog understand that he will start to keep an eye on you and hunt with you.
So that process has started now, I am sure .
That he went over to the area you where last, don't need to be what he remembered. They can smell a bird who has been on the place for a while on several hundreds of meters. Even more if the wind and everything is correct.
When they do that it really shows how good they smell. I have smelled at forexample grouse many times but cant find that they smell so much and the dogs smells theme on a very long distance.
I am in fact happy that I doesn't smell that good and what they smell is the fart of the grouse.
See you soon
Cecilie _________________ Kennel Du mont d`Armagnac
You dont need to be large to be good :0)
I have been thinking about him b'ing off and the difference in him when he is on a line, even if I am not holding the end of it he is still calmer. I wondered if gradually shortening the line might work so that he eventaully stays calmer and slows up with only about a few inches attached of the line. It is a very lightweight yellow plastic lien that you use in whirlies. _________________ Annie
Handle every situation like a dog, if you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away
That is the thing with using a line. They learn it very fast Therefor the line shall be only a extra help in case that the young dog get tempted. Its best to relay on that the "ground work" with "coming in on call " is quite good. Then using the line for example every third time or start without it and put it on if he behaves bad . But you can maybe try to have one short and one long and then switch on theme.
Now I belive you hunt a bit different from us and call theme in a lot more . Because we usually work theme on larger areas they can use a long time to cover it. I usually call theme in every 20-30 minutes for a short break and new orders. Younger dogs every 10-20 minutes. Then they know they have to come, since if not they are getting picked up by me and they don't want that
So the most important is to get your leadership manifested and I think you are close to that.
And as I said in the other , now he knows what he is doing . He has experienced now that its not only finding birds and a bang now he experienced that he got this bird for you . So I belive you will experience that he will work more consciously. Now he only needs more experience . When I work young dogs I try to let theme run of some of the high energy they have at the beginning . So I let theme go , take theme in , let theme go , take theme in. Give directions and so on for about 15 -20 minutes and work theme with sit and go . And they get well rewarded .This is also good because you get their attention and refresh the obedients. And I always stops when its some positive situation. So if they have had a really good work, but I had really thought being out 30 minutes more , I rather stop there.
One other thing is that a male is of course "young" on good and bad longer than a bitch . So often they need some more work and more obidient training .
I am positive he is on the right track now and he will end up as a good hunting dog. And get trial prizes. Then smal Allez`s will run in the forrests and mountains of Norway and Sweden
Cecilie _________________ Kennel Du mont d`Armagnac
You dont need to be large to be good :0)
Allez's stop is coming along quite nicely - we were at the Dam yesterday and he was sorely tempted to go after the 'sitting ducks' - I was concerned about him going on the ice as he had already gone in the water then turned to the side into ice, and realised he had to break it to get back to land. Anyway, he was running full tilt towards the water again and I blew hard - down went the bum instantly. I give credit for this to him realising he would get really cold again rather than obedience, but hey, who cares! It was even colder today out with the girls - see Freckles Frolics and Belle's Blunders tomorrow as I'm off to bed now.
It's a bit cold in there
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I can see dem dooks but you blew stop so i did.
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But MUM..... I want those ducks!
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Click to see full size image _________________ Annie
Handle every situation like a dog, if you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away
Well, I wasn't so successful this morning! Some stupid bozo, namely me, had forgotten to shut the ducks in last night and let the three Brittanys out into the front garden. As usual Allez went to the gate but it was open so he went in there. Had I realised the ducks had already gone out I'd have saved myself and the poor ducks an awful lot of anguish as I could have shut Allez in there and only had the girls to contend with. All three dived into the stream after a different duck. Allez caught a female and toddled off upstream to stop Freckles and Belle getting it. The girls were downstream catching the drake and another female. I whistled Allez to sit, which he did, duck still in moutth. Grabbed Freckles and got her duck off her, put it in the pen and shoved her through to the back garden. Allez is still sitting there in the water with female duck in mouth. Next Belle had dropped the drake as it was too heavy for her - he had got away into the stream so I grabbed her and had to take both her and Freckles to individual runs as they had started to argue over whose duck was whose. When I came back Allez had dropped the female - she was just sitting on the bank quacking loudly and he now had the drake which I had previously noticed had a leg hanging a bit funny and some blood on its back. Being too heavy for Belle she had held it a bit tight. Anyway got the other female in the pen and went for Allez. Whistled the recall and back he came with Jack dangling either side of his mouth. I thought he had had it but when I went to take him he started to sqawk indignantly and flapped his wings. Allez dropped him into my welcomong hands and sat again on command. I dropped the poor drake over the fence and heeled Allez to the back garden. I put fresh straw in the duckshed, squirted savlon cream onto the drake's back and the female's nose, used cotton buds and elastoplast for a splint for Jack's leg. Threw in some food and filled their water bowls and left them. Going to meet Sarah for lunch now so will check them on my return. Needed another shower, a change of clothing and I don't think my shoes will ever recover from the thick squelchy mud, nor my hair from the torrential rain. At least I know Al will definitely retrieve a runner, recall with it and present it to hand!
BA _________________ Annie
Handle every situation like a dog, if you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away
Well done, you had control over them and they had live game. It could have been a lot worse for the ducks, but they only got a few bruises. Well done to Freckles, Belle and Allez... Allez especially, game to hand ... well done
The girls all seem fine, eating and drinking plus all three laid eggs. - outside in the sunshine instead of inside on the straw. Where else would you want a duckling to hatch? Jack's leg isn't any better - have taken splint off as it had slipped anyway - need to rethink that. It's not good him lying in the cold wet mud on his chest. But all four seem to be more or else unscathed by the whole incident. If Allez had been on his own it wouldn't have happened as he would have stopped either on teh whistle or when I yelled at him (I THINK!!! ) , but the girls aren't so well trained and the excitement of the chase and competition got into all of them. Might try Allez at Gartmorn dam this afternoon to see if he will now go into the loch after the ducks there. It might have got him swimming! They'll be Ok - they can get away and so long as I stay away from the feeding area it's fine. Oh the joys of keeping mixed species!
BA _________________ Annie
Handle every situation like a dog, if you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away
Annie, your post had me laughing out loud
Hope Jack's leg makes a full recovery. _________________ Lin, owned by Rudi and Copper the Brittanys & Zac the Springer.
Alls well again. Jack is up on his feet and both his graze and the little girl's one have healed nicely - thanks to Savlon!
But the drama continued yesterday. Freckles decided chasing ducks was such good fun that when Allez, Belle and I were otherwise occupied at the top of the garden speaking to neighbours she smashed her way through a corrugated barrier into the hen run and we were alerted by Jamie squawking at her while she tried to corner KamiKaze(the one that jumps the 4 foot fence) behind the shed. Jamie was about to fly at her talons extended when I arrived at the gate and I yelled at him. Thank goodness for a Cockerel that listens to Mummy!
What Freckles hadn't realised was that although the gap between the fence and the shed was hen sized it wasn't Brittany bum sized so she stuck half way in with about 6 inches between KK and the Brittany jaws. I dragged her out squealing (like a stuck pig?) sat her on the wall, twisted her ears and pushed my face right into hers yelling STAY!!!!! and left her there while I checked the hens and looked for any eggs in the nest. Then I heeled her back out and secured the barrier with extra strong stakes (Yes, vampires came to mind! )
But it wasn't over as you can see below - having put the girls back in their runs I turned to see Allez on point. Aha - blackbird again thought I, then looked to where he was pointing " Look, Mum, hens!" I was a good ten seconds further away from him than he was from the hens which had decided to push down the puppy run panels and check out the grass. So distance control had to be brought into play. I blew the stop whistle and he sat. Praise be! He's getting good at this. I then heeled him, put him into the conservatory and the next task took some 35 minutes. Do you think it is easy to get 6 ex battery hens to go back in a cage. I can tell you that is the LAST place they want to go! I had just driven 4 hours to and from Liz's house (another thread) and had a meeting at 7 so really didn't need this. They had already been fed so no amount of grain or pellets would get them in there. I resorted to a bean net and a big stick and threw them in the run one at a time. Question now is - who'll do a swap with me - three brittanys for an elephant.
Allez and the hens
_________________ Annie
Handle every situation like a dog, if you can't eat it or play with it, just pee on it and walk away
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Now you know why its so incredible exiting . Is it anything who is more beautiful to look at than your dog pointing. Then we can talk about adrenalin kick 
Therefor the line shall be only a extra help in case that the young dog get tempted. Its best to relay on that the "ground work" with "coming in on call " is quite good. Then using the line for example every third time or start without it and put it on if he behaves bad . But you can maybe try to have one short and one long and then switch on theme.
now he experienced that he got this bird for you . So I belive you will experience that he will work more consciously. Now he only needs more experience . When I work young dogs I try to let theme run of some of the high energy they have at the beginning . So I let theme go , take theme in , let theme go , take theme in. Give directions and so on for about 15 -20 minutes and work theme with sit and go . And they get well rewarded .This is also good because you get their attention and refresh the obedients. And I always stops when its some positive situation. So if they have had a really good work, but I had really thought being out 30 minutes more , I rather stop there.
) , but the girls aren't so well trained and the excitement of the chase and competition got into all of them. Might try Allez at Gartmorn dam this afternoon to see if he will now go into the loch after the ducks there. It might have got him swimming! They'll be Ok - they can get away and so long as I stay away from the feeding area it's fine. Oh the joys of keeping mixed species!
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