The Brittany Forum

Patricia · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:48 am Post subject: what do people want?

I had an interesting day yesterday...
Toscane just had her puppies and I had some bookings for them. Many for working homes ...but interestingly ALL wanted the tail off or did not want them if left on for obvious reasons.
One even wanted it docked for competition obedience. Now, that should be fun! Razz

One lady wanted one for showing too and work. I was prepared to leave a tail on for her providing she stated sex and colour.Poor lady was puzzled taking it for granted they would be docked but not realising the implications of the showing nightmare...Now thinking about it all! Embarassed

Way round it all?
Tailless!! Confused

I am now waiting to complete my gang with an imported tailless male from an " 8 point" litter.

johnhod · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:50 am Post subject:

You need a friendly vet who will confirm they are all bobtails, without seeing them.
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Annie as admin · Bretonnier Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 1757

Not possible - the tail-less gene is not 100% - in a litter of 6 say, the stats say 4 tail-less, 2 normal length tails. Even a friendly vet wouldn't be that daft. I have to have mine certified if they are born tail-less and what length they are so just as much a nightmare up here. Even though we can't dock I have to prove that I haven't done it Rolling Eyes

So utterly STUPID!!!

eddieh · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject:

Patricia · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject:

I have imported a tailess bitch( Clochette du petit Odon) who is brachyoure( bobtail) so she looks just like my others.tailed.
I have a certificate from the French vet that she is naturally so and no op was done on her. I will have the same with the male. NOT a problem.
And if I can't show much my docked dogs, then so be it. Sad

It is a choice and I have made it. Exclamation

Patricia · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject:

I agree with Anne- This country and Europe have gone bonkers.
They worry about a few seconds discomfort yet, we still castrate and dock piglets, double tag calves at a young age etc...We worry more about the welfare of animals than we do that of people's...We don't want to kill little birds and have to leave dangerously overgrown heges on the roadside. people get killed because of poor visibilty, but that's OK!!! Evil or Very Mad

You are better off here if you are a dog and go to the vet's!!! Wink

guy · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject:

legislation - by the ill-informed for the uniformed.
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guy · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject:

Perhaps the Club - for the benefit of its members - could publish a comprehensive list of clubs and societies who put on shows which allow legally docked dogs to enter.?

Likewise a list to name and shame ones who don't.
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johnhod · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject:

Kennel Club at the top of the list of those who don't then Evil or Very Mad

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Annie as admin · Bretonnier Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 1757

I asked Paul this question before but I don't think he got much response from teh Champ Shows. I'll ask him again - but basically Open and Limited Shows don't charge admission.
Crufts does, and have said they won't change - so much for the KC support for docking!
Annie