The Brittany Forum

Ghilliegumdrop · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:12 am Post subject:

1] I didn't say 'advertising' I said 'newsletter'

2] Neither I nor Dogsbody [as far as I can make out] have accused you of being a puppy farmer Rolling Eyes

The comment was, there have been both letters and articles in the dog papers saying that puppy farmers are also taking part in this scheme. It seems that the KC do not have the capability or the desire to police the people joining it. If this is so....what good is it

Do you really think its a good idea to be on a list with puppy farmers, when, it appears, the KC does nothing to exclude them Exclamation

3] You are the person that put on here that you are a member of the scheme.....I, and also Dogsbody, are just the ones asking questions Exclamation

Are we not allowed to do that

As far as I am aware this is still a forum where we can ask questions [sensible or otherwise] and sometimes get an answer that's understandable. If this is not so I would like to be informed so that I can remove my name from the list Exclamation

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Merlin, hips 9/9=18 and Ghillie, hips 8/9=17
Pull [n or v] An equal and opposite force perpetrated on both ends of a lead that results in the inevitable tripping and falling of the human involved!!

johnhod · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:26 am Post subject:

Maybe Annie, or any other KC accredited breeder, could explain just what has been done to check the information that they provided to the KC in order to achieve accredited breeder status. Have any of your kennels been inspected? Do you need to submit, or have inspected any documentation relating to health checks, etc?

I appreciate that most club members, involved in breeding, will be able to truthfully say that they meet the required criteria but if all you have to do is say "yes I do that" or tick a box on a form does that really have any value. Surprising as it may be not everyone is totally honest.
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Ghilliegumdrop · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:36 am Post subject:

My point exactly John....this is what seems to escape Annie's attention. Just because you're honest Annie doesn't mean every one else is, not every one is truthful when filling in forms or in what they say to people Rolling Eyes

The members of the Brittany Club [that breed litters] are already doing all they can as regards breeding and rearing a healthy litter and then making sure, to the best of their ability, that the pups are going to good permanent homes....why do people feel a need to pay into yet another scheme that just puts money in the KC coffers, and for which there seems to be no benefit Question

Seems absolutely potty to me to pay to do something that you are already doing [but thats just my opinion] I like my money in my pocket as long as possible never mind throwing it away and getting nothing back Rolling Eyes

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Merlin, hips 9/9=18 and Ghillie, hips 8/9=17
Pull [n or v] An equal and opposite force perpetrated on both ends of a lead that results in the inevitable tripping and falling of the human involved!!

The Plum · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:52 am Post subject:

I know nothing about this K.C. accredited breeder scheme thing but I do know the K.C. - If they can see a way to take your money and do nothing in the way of work themselves - they will do that.

I can't really see any sense in the scheme , not for an occasional smalltime breder anyway.

I have a friend who lives locally. She has huge kennels - spaniels, labs and pointers. I "help" by training a few of these showdogs as gundogs. The local council here have hit her with a sort of land tax claim (the land is entirely hers) It is based on the square footage of her kennel run space. She would be financially better off if she thought less of her dogs and put them into smaller runs !!! I think the council has a damn cheek. The council does nothing to help her. It doesn't improve the road to her house, it doesn't improve her drainage etc. - yet she has to pay them for doing nothing but putting her money into their pockets so they can go off on " fact finding" junkets etc. Does that sound a bit like another organisation we all know ? - No ,not the Mafia - not quite anyway !!! Laughing

The Plum.
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Ghilliegumdrop · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:15 am Post subject:

The Goverment Question

Is there a prize for the correct answer Question

Aren't monopolies illegal, and yet, that's what the KC has Rolling Eyes

Anyone trying to set up a 'rival' organization gets short shift and people are told that dogs not registered with them cannot take part in any KC events Exclamation

At least the cat showing world has two registering bodies to choose from and you can register your cat with either or both of them and choose to show with both as well Exclamation

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Jan
Merlin, hips 9/9=18 and Ghillie, hips 8/9=17
Pull [n or v] An equal and opposite force perpetrated on both ends of a lead that results in the inevitable tripping and falling of the human involved!!

Annie as admin · Bretonnier Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 1757

If anyone has any concerns about the KC Accredited Breeder Scheme please see below and contact Angela direct if you have any queries, please.
Annie.

Dear Anne, thank you for your email. The Kennel Club Accredited Breeder Scheme was established as a code of good practice for breeders to sign up to. The aim is to create a database of breeders who have signed up to a code of good practice covering identification, health testing and provision of information. To say that we recruit puppy farmers is wholly inaccurate. We do spot checks on our breeders and welcome feedback from puppy buyers or other breeders if they have concerns about a member of the Accredited Breeder Scheme. We take complaints about our members seriously. I suggest that if you have strong substantiated concerns about a member of the scheme then I urge you or one of your friends to put your concern into writing with a signature to it and address it to myself at The Kennel Club.

Contrary to some of the misinformation out there about the scheme; we do in fact police litters registered under the scheme on a daily basis. Breeders are selected at random every week to receive a Breeder Advisor visit. Therefore policing is possible and it is done.

My correspondence address is

1-5 Clarges Street

Piccadilly

London

W1J 8AB

Kind regards

Angela Cliffe
Accredited Breeder Scheme Officer

The Kennel Club
Tel: 0870 606 6750 ex 309
Fax: 020 7518 1028

angela.cliffe@thekennelclub.org.uk

www.thekennelclub.org.uk

Ghilliegumdrop · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject:

Once more something that was said is taken out of context,

What I said was 'there have been both letters and articles in the dog papers about so called puppy farmers on the scheme'

Don't know about you being an accountant Annie....you should have been a politician, they don't see what they don't want to, they don't read what they don't want to and neither do they answer a question directly if they don't want to.

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Jan
Merlin, hips 9/9=18 and Ghillie, hips 8/9=17
Pull [n or v] An equal and opposite force perpetrated on both ends of a lead that results in the inevitable tripping and falling of the human involved!!