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Le Breton and the heads of today

 
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Patricia
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Joined: 09 Mar 2008
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Location: Suffolk

PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:20 am    Post subject: Le Breton and the heads of today  Reply with quote

Well, we are back from the Nationale d'Elevage held in the heart of Brittany, Loudeac...I need to thank my expert" chauffeur" Very Happy  and friend Sue Axtell for taking me as this journey is quite a treck!
It is interesting to see newer kennels develop and their "types"..Though, we are all in agreement that the Brittany is primarily a working dog, its conformation makes him what he is and that goes for his head too!
The first thing you see when you look at this cheeky gundog is just that: cheeky, alert, naughty little dog, a Jack of all trades who adapts himself to all kind of situations and terrain.
We have been going to the Nationale since 1992, missing only 3 or 4 up to now. I have seen things change since...
This year, one thing concerned me more; the heads of some Bretons Confused  Broad skulls, overdone zygomatic arches, round if not globulous eyes, loose skin ( what happened to the tight skin envelopping the head described by Jean Louvet) and heavy muzzles. I did share my concerns with the President of the CEB and he replied" why do you think we are having a "best head" competition????...Never mind short coated dogs reminding of Pointers, and dark coats, this is a major thing...I am so glad that after discussing on the French Forum, some of the CEB Committee are on board with this, as we are at risk of losing what epithomises the breed: its moderate head and soft expression, its little ears very highly set, its cheeky look...
I am relieved to know that the Breed Clubs are in charge of the standard, its conformation , its judges and its working standard.  Cool
The other thing deeply concerning me was that two dogs were after a good scrap in the ring, something I never want ! Shocked
I am told the standard of judges will be stricter next year, so, I say , roll on to the next Nationale!!!
After all my negative rantings, there were still some beautiful, stunning and excellent dogs present Wink
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Victoria
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Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 5278


Location: 39degreesS

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patricia, from the fotos I have seen, and we know only too well that fotos can lead the viewer way up the garden path, that some of the youngsters have rise to the hips...maybe it was the way they were set up...or a growth thing...??
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Patricia
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Joined: 09 Mar 2008
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Location: Suffolk

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I have learnt...photos can and do lie Confused ...
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Orion
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Joined: 03 Oct 2012
Posts: 67


Location: Athens Greece

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always welcome Patricias notes .its good to learn from her because her eyes trained for years in NE in France.
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Patricia
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Location: Suffolk

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Dimitris... Very Happy  Nice to hear from you and hope we meet for " real" at some stage? Nationale?
I was privileged to spend some time at our French annual gathering with a Belgian breeder for whom I have high regard...Georgine Weber with the affix " de L'Hospitalier"
Our first dual Ch in the UK is by her male, Tchao...
Anyway, I have voiced my concerns on Facebook and the French Forum, and it is good to have their feedback!!! Now...my friend was mulling over who to mate her baby when the time comes eventually...to be rather surprised to see far too many dogs related to the " Popular sires" containing Varim des Sources Claires, Lurky, then Iska and Indy de St Lubin, Thais, Bora etc...
I had bought a little bitch of an old line recently..but her hips are not good enough to breed with, and I won't contemplate ever not checking this Health test!!!
I am now on a mission to find unrelated dogs to mate my French Liver bitch with...A lot harder than once thought with thousand of Brits in France Shocked
She is excellent in many ways, now cotee "2/6" but I don't want to double up on her ancestors...finding the right dog is a real problem, I want him unrelated, bright in colour, without a " bulldog" head, a sound and biddable working dog and not short on leg or " clumpy"...Easy? No Wink
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Orion
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Joined: 03 Oct 2012
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Location: Athens Greece

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patricia thanks for the welcomed.of course we will meet sometime
its target of my life to win you in a dog show HAHAHA

i am working on it .i wait to see my bitch 4 years now  in female blood to leave for France.

we are on 8 month from last period .she delay on purpose .dont want to get married yet !! HAHAHA she prefer clubing and drinks !

i notice your posts in France EB Forum .

to help you in your mission  for male the only one if you allow me to recommend is father of my bitch .he always GIVES GIVES GIVES ....
the France breeders are rather snob to use him.Spanish breeders are more openminded....

i am sure you find like indiana jones .......finally the ''holy cup''

i am going now to a mountain outside Athens to watch concours of EB  in chuckar perdix with a friend


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