The Brittany Forum

david · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject:

The man i bought my Brit from, Mark Belmonte swore by his bitch and told me that most quarry put up at a certain well known falconry meet was produced by his bitch. I have no evidence of this, but i have no reason to doubt him.He placed this little Brittany well above the Gsp he also had.
Having worked different breeds of dogs for quite a few years, i find it impossible to say one breed is better than another, though there are certain strains within a breed being produced that seem to be superior in certain ways.

David

steve · Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject:

hi patricia this is an old post so may now not be relevent iam sure the reason people say you must use a pointer is all down to tradition there are many good traditional falconers out there who put many hours into training there hawks ( i have spent many hours setting up delta kites to teach a teircel to gain hieght drove hours to find the right spot for a 10 minute flight) with there dedication comes a price a one sided veiw if you dont fly a peri at grouse your not a true falconer and you must have a pointer to do it if you were to use anything else it is to be frowned upon a defination of a falconer is to train a hawk to hunt in its natural state at suitable quarry wether it be a hybred flying out of the hood at rooks or peri at grouse i have been flying both longwing and shortwing for 23 years and my favourite is gull hawking with my female tri bred she will take slips from half a mile away at gulls sat out in feilds but to a traditionalst thats not true falconry iam not knocking them its great to see a tradition going with passion but they dont all look at the bigger picture
steve

Victoria · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:39 am Post subject:

Tell us more, Steve, please!
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steve · Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject:

what would you like to know and i will try to help

Victoria · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:56 am Post subject:

To the uninitiated how do you juggle the dog's hunting methods and that of your raptor...

do certain dogs dislike working with your birds?

you must be very busy what with a dog at foot and a bird at hand?!!

at what age is your peregrine trained and to what age would you work them?

it is such a fascinating subject, Steve, and I would love to observe this form of hunting in person. One day!
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Waldo · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:59 am Post subject:

I also find the whole concept rather intriguing and something I'm sure in this country you would never be allowed to do. Sometimes the only thing I feel we miss out on over here (Australia that is) is that we have no real history/tradition to speak of in comparison to Europe, etc.
Cheers,
Waldo

Ghilliegumdrop · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:52 am Post subject:

Bit like the USA Waldo Wink

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Victoria · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:10 am Post subject:

Well you are both right but here in New Zealand we are world famous (sorry, Waldo) cos we get to see the sun before anyone else, everyday!!!!!
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Waldo · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:38 am Post subject:

Don't be sorry Victoria, from what little I've see of NZ it looks like paradise. Cheers,
Waldo

guy · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:21 am Post subject:

the discussion about training haws has been split off and is now here
http://thebrittanyforum.myfreeforum.org/sutra25084.php#25084
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